# Surgical Strike Update Follow-up **URL:** \ **Category:** Upcoming Features & Changes\ **Created:** [April 8, 2020, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-update-follow-up/231061 "2020-04-08T19:04:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Oradric\_Cube](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oradric_cube/32/423508_2.png) [@Oradric\_Cube](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oradric_Cube)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-update-follow-up/231061/492 "2020-04-14T20:42:53Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > Isn’t that kind of the whole point that CCP is going for? > [@CCP\_Rise](#): > > This topic is more complicated to untangle but **it is certainly not our intention to make suicide ganking easier or cheaper**. I think I get your point though. CCP has their publicly stated reasons for their actions… and then they have the “real” reasons. Every eve player knows that CCP loves gankers. Every eve player knows that ccp hates hisec miners. CCP loves saying it’s a sandbox game but hisec miners are “playing eve the wrong way” in CCP’s eyes. This is just one of many instances where CCP “accidentally” screws over hisec miners while doing something else. I get it CCP, you don’t like how I (and many others) enjoy playing eve. You don’t want our money because we’re “playing eve the wrong way.” Fine. Message received. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-update-follow-up/231061/493 "2020-04-14T20:48:00Z")
> [@Oradric\_Cube](#): > > You don’t want our money because we’re “playing eve the wrong way.” Fine. Message received. What are you gonna do about it? ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-update-follow-up/231061/494 "2020-04-14T20:51:32Z")
How, exactly, is this update going to keep you from mining in high sec? It’s not going to keep me from mining… ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-update-follow-up/231061/495 "2020-04-14T20:55:23Z")
If he uninstalls he won’t be able to mine. ---
**Author:** ![DragoFire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragofire/32/257926_2.png) [@DragoFire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DragoFire)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-update-follow-up/231061/496 "2020-04-14T21:23:01Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > It’s not that bad. I’ve already ran the numbers and I lost 12% total EHP on my Skiff. To compensate, I’ll just have to fit one or two deadspace modules instead of T2. That will only recover at best 5%. The better modules get hit the hardest by this resistance update. ---
**Author:** ![Vix\_Sparda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vix_sparda/32/248303_2.png) [@Vix\_Sparda](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vix_Sparda)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-update-follow-up/231061/497 "2020-04-14T23:11:56Z")
Wanna increase the liffe of this game? stop nerfing every god damn thing to subsist with pvp player wishes. i get it its fun to shoot everyone. but if all the pve players leave the game dies. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-update-follow-up/231061/498 "2020-04-14T23:12:34Z")
Buff Project Discovery! ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-update-follow-up/231061/499 "2020-04-14T23:28:31Z")
> [@Vix\_Sparda](#): > > Wanna increase the liffe of this game? stop nerfing every god damn thing to subsist with pvp player wishes. i get it its fun to shoot everyone. but if all the pve players leave the game dies. What makes you think PvPers “wished” any of this? ---
**Author:** ![DragoFire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragofire/32/257926_2.png) [@DragoFire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DragoFire)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-update-follow-up/231061/500 "2020-04-14T23:31:33Z")
> [@Onictus](#): > > What makes you think PvPers “wished” any of this? I’m going to guess the instant salt throwers that come out as soon as any posts about being ganked, leaving or anything related to PVE. ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 11:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-update-follow-up/231061/501 "2020-04-14T23:41:11Z")
> [@DragoFire](#): > > I’m going to guess the instant salt throwers that come out as soon as any posts about being ganked, leaving or anything related to PVE. Yeah, because I just WISHED that three of my toons would be irrelevant over night, and that I need to deal with re-calibrating billions worth fits on ships spread all over new eden. People whining about gankers, are completely missing the script. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-update-follow-up/231061/502 "2020-04-14T23:43:35Z")
> [@Onictus](#): > > deal with re-calibrating billions worth fits on ships spread all over new eden. This part. My ships look like swiss cheese so many times… I still have a frig with large rigs on it lol. ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2020, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-update-follow-up/231061/503 "2020-04-15T00:28:35Z")
> [@Dant\_Perst](#): > > I still do not understand the justification for nerfing shield and armor resists in Subcapitals. What is the reason for this? And do you want to understand? Because the reasons are there in the dev blog for all to see… You like them or not, agree with them or not, but pretending they didn’t give a reason for these changes to subcapitals too is plain silly… ---
**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2020, 4:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-update-follow-up/231061/504 "2020-04-15T04:20:13Z")
> [@Oradric\_Cube](#): > > Every eve player knows that CCP loves gankers. I guess thats why we get our gameplay constantly nerfd lmao > [@Oradric\_Cube](#): > > I get it CCP, you don’t like how I (and many others) enjoy playing eve. Your idea of playing eve is to sit in an unkillable barge mining afk, we dont want you, youre a bot > [@Vix\_Sparda](#): > > Wanna increase the liffe of this game? stop nerfing every god damn thing to subsist with pvp player wishes. Pve players have had it way to easy the last few years, the afk no risk isk machine needs to end some time ---
**Author:** ![Mingshoa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mingshoa/32/196544_2.png) [@Mingshoa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mingshoa)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2020, 4:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-update-follow-up/231061/505 "2020-04-15T04:31:32Z")
Well that all good and Jolly, but your game is dying, subs are down, and you have a flood of alphas that don’t pay, gank all you want till there no more people to gank but your own alt. Eat your own children as they say. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2020, 4:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-update-follow-up/231061/506 "2020-04-15T04:39:23Z")
> [@Mingshoa](#): > > subs are down Citation needed. ---
**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2020, 4:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-update-follow-up/231061/507 "2020-04-15T04:49:26Z")
> [@Mingshoa](#): > > gank all you want till there no more people to gank but your own alt. Will do > [@Mingshoa](#): > > Eat your own children as they say. lmao ganking has done nothing but help player retention, the player count has consistently gone down after every nerf to our gameplay ---
**Author:** ![Mingshoa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mingshoa/32/196544_2.png) [@Mingshoa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mingshoa)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2020, 4:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-update-follow-up/231061/508 "2020-04-15T04:57:02Z")
Bullocks! Eat your own children, gankers will be ganking their alts for fun. ---
**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2020, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-update-follow-up/231061/509 "2020-04-15T05:07:46Z")
cry moar kid ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2020, 5:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-update-follow-up/231061/510 "2020-04-15T05:35:16Z")
When a new patch comes out and everyone’s with it but you 🔴 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/5/25666d5669d77d50872434469096563468279e68.gif) (👆 also me running my group on a good day) ---
**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-update-follow-up/231061/511 "2020-04-15T05:36:21Z")
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