# Survey needed to ask the community about multiboxing **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 15, 2024, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/survey-needed-to-ask-the-community-about-multiboxing/436317 "2024-01-15T20:07:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Nijushiho](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/doctor_nijushiho/32/385189_2.png) [@Doctor\_Nijushiho](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Doctor_Nijushiho)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/survey-needed-to-ask-the-community-about-multiboxing/436317/41 "2024-01-19T14:16:13Z")
My observation on multi-boxing: The game is designed for multi-boxing and group play in corporations CCP probably would not be able to stay in business if people stopped multi-boxing as there are not enough people left who play the game to sustain it with a single character subscription at $20 a month With multi-boxing, the universe is dry and boring. Most “people” you encounter are just bots or alts of one person Eve seems to be missing the best component which is having most players be brand new and easily killed or scammed to create the possibility for low/intermediate skilled players to win fights. The way Eve is now, any fight is between a psychopath with streamer level fitting and play skills and someone who was trying to hide in a dark corner and never be noticed. The proliferation of skill points and the number of capitals in the game which seem to never be lost creates an accumulation of non-destroyed assets that build until the social structures become fixed. It was more fun to play 10 years ago than today. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/survey-needed-to-ask-the-community-about-multiboxing/436317/42 "2024-01-19T15:21:57Z")
> [@John\_Rochard](#): > > I think you should reflect on what it is you feel and why you desire all who don’t share your thoughts, not to have their own thoughts. Oh do give over. All that Rail ultimately had to offer was silly ad hominem into which clearly zero thought had gone. Come up to my level of debate…I’m not _lowering_ myself to yours. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/survey-needed-to-ask-the-community-about-multiboxing/436317/43 "2024-01-19T15:27:23Z")
> [@Spacetramp\_Drago](#): > > Do what many of us have, block her because… …you can’t cope. Clearly some of the money CCP make from multiboxing ought to go towards special PTSD counselling for those traumatised by posts that disagree with them. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/survey-needed-to-ask-the-community-about-multiboxing/436317/44 "2024-01-19T19:28:41Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > Even when Barstorlode (and Falcon back in the day) used to ban me You’ve been banned? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/survey-needed-to-ask-the-community-about-multiboxing/436317/45 "2024-01-19T19:36:53Z")
> [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](#): > > EQ, EQ2, WoW,… > > Multiboxing wasn’t part of the intentional game design - like living in wormholes, players saw that they could do it, so did. My friends have been multi-boxing in EQ since 99, when Multi Boxing literally meant having Multiple Computers. > > –Gadget can tell you the benefits of a pocket healer… Multi-boxing in those games is _possible_ (in the sense that it’s not forbidden or technologically blocked), but very clearly not intended game design. For example, in WoW someone can multi-box to transfer items/gold between factions using the neutral auction house. Or service providers (e.g. power-leveling) can log in additional characters at summoning stones in order to be able to summon you to the dungeon. But those are niche use cases. The core gameplay loop isn’t built around using multiple characters at the same time, and it’s exceptionally rare to see someone even _try._ Meanwhile, EVE is _literally_ designed in a way that makes players use as many characters at the same time as they physically can. That’s a _huge_ difference. ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/survey-needed-to-ask-the-community-about-multiboxing/436317/46 "2024-01-19T20:31:22Z")
> Multi-boxing in those games is _possible_ (in the sense that it’s not forbidden or technologically blocked), but very clearly not intended game design. > > Meanwhile, EVE is _literally_ designed in a way that makes players use as many characters at the same time as they physically can. I’ll have to disagree with you on this. EvE was designed as any MMORPG from that era in that NOT including multiboxing was improbable to do successfully if not impossible. As you noted it only picked up being used offensively years after release. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > EVE didn’t come out the gate this way, though. Alts always existed, but the whole 20-character farming stuff didn’t come about until the second decade era began. EvE was built with the ability to multi-box, because that was just how you built MMOs. Players found a use and compounded on it (or abused it if that’s your view) - just like an all Shaman “team” was racking up WOW’s battlegrounds. If you want to argue that they could throttle the use of multiboxing now, I might get behind that, but personally, I think that djini is already out of the bottle - especially with a single shared universe. Both EQ and EQ2 have realms that are ‘truebox’ - but of course some players have found workarounds. –Historian Gadget ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/survey-needed-to-ask-the-community-about-multiboxing/436317/47 "2024-01-19T20:39:55Z")
> [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](#): > > I’ll have to disagree with you on this. EvE was designed as any MMORPG from that era in that NOT including multiboxing was improbable to do successfully if not impossible. > > As you noted it only picked up being used offensively years after release. Well that’s what I said, “second decade.” Ten years in, their design methodology switched entirely to creating features that make individual players use as many accounts as possible. And CCP’s store offers and monetization features reflect that. > [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](#): > > EvE was built with the ability to multi-box, because that was just how you built MMOs. Players found a use and compounded on it (or abused it if that’s your view) - just like an all Shaman “team” was racking up WOW’s battlegrounds. Stacking shamans was a niche “troll” build used to make YouTube compilations, and never used in an actual, serious capacity. They definitely didn’t dominate BGs. They _couldn’t._ You blew your three-minute cooldowns and then you’re a sitting duck with your character stack that can get AoEed down in seconds. > [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](#): > > If you want to argue that they could throttle the use of multiboxing now, I might get behind that, but personally, I think that djini is already out of the bottle - especially with a single shared universe. I agree, it’s too late. We’re circling the drain at this point, and the funnel is getting ever smaller. And we’ll never manage to swim back up. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2024, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/survey-needed-to-ask-the-community-about-multiboxing/436317/48 "2024-02-10T17:41:18Z")
Why do we need some survey to ask the community about multiboxing when these forums can host polls! ---
**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2024, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/survey-needed-to-ask-the-community-about-multiboxing/436317/49 "2024-02-11T08:16:24Z")
Sometimes corporations don’t ask specific questions because they are afraid of what the answer might be and that’s fine, its not like there arent other games you can play in peace ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2024, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/survey-needed-to-ask-the-community-about-multiboxing/436317/50 "2024-02-11T12:50:57Z")
> [@Wesfahrn](#): > > its not like there arent other games you can play in peace Why are you even logging in to a dark, dangerous, dysfunctional, multiplayer combat universe to ’ play in peace ’ ?? ---
**Author:** ![Wachutu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wachutu/32/410262_2.png) [@Wachutu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wachutu)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/survey-needed-to-ask-the-community-about-multiboxing/436317/51 "2024-02-12T09:59:43Z")
People who complain about multibox don’t understand this game and should look for another one. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2024, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/survey-needed-to-ask-the-community-about-multiboxing/436317/52 "2024-05-12T10:00:38Z")
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