# Suspect/criminal timer and player owned stations

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Tags:** high-sec\
**Created:** [February 7, 2022, 3:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836 "2022-02-07T03:46:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 22

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/427 "2022-03-21T21:55:51Z")

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Like gankers asking for getting wreck EHP to be increased when AG started shooting wrecks? Pity your view of yourselves is just hot air and bluster…

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**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/428 "2022-03-21T22:25:04Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> The whole thing about “going after ganker supporters” is absolute rubbish though, because AGs don’t actually _do_ that. I’ve sent Aiko countless billions, and I’ve never had NEPF show up at my station and tell me to come out with my hands up.

Even Aiko doesn’t seem to go as far as Amarr…its 43 jumps from Uedama. I haven’t been down to Amarr for several weeks, despite having a dozen or so ships there. It is, though, a far better trading station than laggy Jita. Must pop down there again sometime with an arrest warrant 🙂

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/429 "2022-03-21T22:28:23Z")

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> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#):
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> As far as I’m concerned, if anyone buys and displays a mining permit…they are effectively _supporting_ the activity of criminal pirates every bit as much as if they were ganking. Sponsors of piracy should rightly be on the AG hit list…as they fully have the option of telling Safety to ‘stuff your permits’, but they don’t. You are with the resistance, or you are against it. Decide !

LOL so they should gank permit holders?

Hilarious.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/430 "2022-03-21T22:29:08Z")

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If that was the case then they would adapt by repairing their pilot status just enough to carry out the task.  
Or keep making new alts.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/431 "2022-03-21T22:38:10Z")

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> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#):
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> Even Aiko doesn’t seem to go as far as Amarr…its 43 jumps from Uedama. I haven’t been down to Amarr for several weeks, despite having a dozen or so ships there. It is, though, a far better trading station than laggy Jita. Must pop down there again sometime with an arrest warrant 🙂

Okay, so, is the requirement for me to come to _them?_ That’s fine, but I want to hear _them_ say it, and not you. I want to see some of this enforcement that’s mentioned all the time.

> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> If that was the case then they would adapt by repairing their pilot status just enough to carry out the task.

Getting rid of tags entirely is also something that’s brought up fairly often.

> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> Or keep making new alts.

As far as I know, recycling alts has always been against the rules.

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**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/432 "2022-03-21T23:21:47Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> Okay, so, is the requirement for me to come to _them?_ That’s fine, but I want to hear _them_ say it, and not you. I want to see some of this enforcement that’s mentioned all the time.

Let me know what you are coming in and I’ll fetch an appropriate one of my ships from Dodixie…for a welcome. Or, if I don’t have a suitable ship there…I’m sure Gix could suggest something.

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**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/433 "2022-03-21T23:26:14Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> LOL so they should gank permit holders?

Well…‘they’ is NEPF. I’m not in NEPF…so those ‘rules’ are purely mine. Yes…I will gank anything that carries a Safety permit.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/434 "2022-03-22T07:17:41Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> Okay, so, is the requirement for me to come to _them?_ That’s fine, but I want to hear _them_ say it,

So Destiny do you have your own station where you live

Anyway I don’t see you as a ganker supporter more a supporter of eve game play , I’m sure if we played like you have told me I should do , I’m sure you would have supported us .

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/435 "2022-03-22T07:26:11Z")

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Amarr trade hub basically, but Destiny’s corp joined RIOT yesterday, and RIOT has a war against the alliance I am in, so at least we have a baby step here.

> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> Okay, so, is the requirement for me to come to _them?_ That’s fine, but I want to hear _them_ say it, and not you. I want to see some of this enforcement that’s mentioned all the time.

It finally got there, when I kept pointing out that as the war deccer they are supposed to hunt it seemed I was talking to a very dense brick wall. It took this long for this low effort station hugger to realise this. Progress has been made, what do you think?

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/436 "2022-03-22T07:28:33Z")

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Oh that’s interesting

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/437 "2022-03-22T07:39:10Z")

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I would not hold your breath on it though. But at least Destiny is using some grey matter at last. In truth it was a logical decision because there is one RIOT player with three accounts that station hugs in Amarr and they sort of can defend their war HQ which is on a hisec island in Gallente space.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/438 "2022-03-22T08:15:01Z")

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Just 3 🤔

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/439 "2022-03-22T08:15:11Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> Anyway I don’t see you as a ganker supporter more a supporter of eve game play

I absolutely _am_ a ganker supporter. It’s just not the _only_ thing I support.

> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> I’m sure if we played like you have told me I should do , I’m sure you would have supported us .

The only thing I told you to do is not support null-sec freighters and AFK miners for free. I can’t support anyone who supports players who don’t _deserve_ support. That’s kind of the red line.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/440 "2022-03-22T14:35:44Z")

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Are they defending them now? Because before they were just waiting around to loot the wrecks.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/441 "2022-03-22T21:36:50Z")

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> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#):
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> Well…‘they’ is NEPF. I’m not in NEPF…so those ‘rules’ are purely mine. Yes…I will gank anything that carries a Safety permit.

LOL the irony. Well make sure you explain you aren’t associated with SAFETY.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/442 "2022-03-22T21:57:54Z")

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Don’t worry, I suspect this person won’t undock much.

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**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/443 "2022-03-23T06:50:06Z")

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I feel like we have some high school gossip going on haha. Anyway, I’ll shed a little light here since my name, corp, and alliance has been coming up.

- I’m not a “ganker”. My activity rests in whatever I’m interested in doing at the moment. Just ask @Toxic_Yaken 😉 I am a scammer, griefer, extortionist, thief, war dec’er, ganker, among many other things. If you were going to classify me with a term I’d choose “■■■■ head”

- I’ve been playing with Blackflag since Blackflag was previously Pirat and even before than when we were Vendetta Mercenary Group. So I wasn’t asked to join. I just hit my old friends up and said that I wanted to gank and participate in war stuff.

- I haven’t been ganking recently because I like to bounce between things. Keeps the game fresh for me.

- I have taken a few ganking contracts and even used ganking to hit a group of war immune guys that ■■■■ talk us.

- Slaver Union isn’t my corp. Toxic Yaken and I run it jointly and and while it’s mostly just the two of us, we do have a few friends that come and go as they please. I am 100% only playing this game because of Toxic Yaken and the friendship we have.

This concludes my Ted Talk.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/444 "2022-03-23T09:03:25Z")

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Mmhmm. Confirming the reasons I thought.

And proving Drac wrong 😃

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/445 "2022-03-23T09:16:59Z")

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I see you got bored again.

You can call yourself whatever you want. Still for an extended period you were ganking around Poinen and reported as such. You are also not the only player in Blackflag. who ganks regulary while in Blackflag. A certain Ex-Hells Dawn player also ganks around Sivala.

As such your corp and this other character will be reported as gankers.

The benefit is that I always wanted war deccers reported in Gank intel, so thank you.

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**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/446 "2022-03-23T09:21:12Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> I see you got bored again.

No. I’ve simply been doing other activities.

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