# Suspect/criminal timer and player owned stations **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Tags:** high-sec\ **Created:** [February 7, 2022, 3:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836 "2022-02-07T03:46:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/85 "2022-02-10T18:26:27Z")
Y o u c a n a l r e a d y w a r d e c m e . . . . You really are quite special aren’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/86 "2022-02-10T19:13:47Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Y o u c a n a l r e a d y w a r d e c m e . . . . > > You really are quite special aren’t you? That’s not the point of the challenge (of course you as always will pretend to be ignorant about that too). You’re the one who keeps bragging about all of your PvP exploits, so this is a call-out to see if your ass can cash the checks your mouth writes. That’s why the terms are so generous. This is intended to make you look like a total wussy when you inevitably try to weasel out of this by pretending you didn’t read it (until you come up with a better excuse), saying you “don’t do duels 😏” (it absolutely isn’t a duel), et cetera. This effect has been largely accomplished already. I don’t think there’s more than a small handful of players that still respect you here, aside from the select few with whom your agendas align. Me? I hold no grudge and couldn’t give even two rat shits about you or what you do in the game. In fact, I’ve never went after anyone in-game over my forum interactions with them. And you _especially_ are about as insignificant to me as a dung beetle. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/87 "2022-02-10T19:51:58Z")
> [@Wes Wyhunnan](#): > > He totally Roff’d you I still use that sometimes. I wonder whatever happened to that dude LOL. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Having just read your challenge because someone told me what it was Bro why do you even go thru the motions of lying LOL. > [@Destiny Corrupted](#): > > the select few with whom your agendas align. What’s sad is the NEPF sacrificed their whole credibility for this dude LOL. All for a krab who barely plays and doesn’t know an MTU from a mobile depot. Truly, it is a pity. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/88 "2022-02-10T22:14:45Z")
I am not trying to prove anything, I define myself as merely competent. It is you who is trying and failing to prove something. Earlier I told Githany in a chat channel about blowing up a certain ganker who was reported as now operating in Uedama. Well he was rather difficult to get as he used scouts, but after several failures he finally jumped into me. I thought about it afterwards with your comments about me thinking I am some super good PvP player. It made me laugh, for me it was the hunt, that was the reason that kill meant something to me, and why I mentioned it to Githany, not pride or trying to say look how good I am, I was just super impressed with myself for actually getting a kill on that player, because the hunt was what was fun and he is damn good at what he does. You make out that you are some hot hard nosed hunter, who likes a hard PvP game, but all you can say is **come to me** …, you have to do a lot better than that. All you proved to me is just how incredibly weak you are. A hunter you are not. You have a grudge alright, but you are just too far up yourself to notice. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/89 "2022-02-10T22:22:49Z")
Oh no! I unhide a random post and discover that somebody just got schooled by Drac. Imagine my surprise! ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/90 "2022-02-10T22:34:34Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I was just super impressed with myself for actually getting a kill on that player, because the hunt was what was fun and he is damn good at what he does. Sure you did bruv, sure you did. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/91 "2022-02-10T22:35:41Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I am not trying to prove anything, I define myself as merely competent. It is you who is trying and failing to prove something. Earlier I told Githany in a chat channel about blowing up a certain ganker who was reported as now operating in Uedama. Well he was rather difficult to get as he used scouts, but after several failures he finally jumped into me. I thought about it afterwards with your comments about me thinking I am some super good PvP player. It made me laugh, for me it was the hunt, that was the reason that kill meant something to me, and why I mentioned it to Githany, not pride or trying to say look how good I am, I was just super impressed with myself for actually getting a kill on that player, because the hunt was what was fun and he is damn good at what he does. > > You make out that you are some hot hard nosed hunter, who likes a hard PvP game, but all you can say is **come to me** …, you have to do a lot better than that. All you proved to me is just how incredibly weak you are. A hunter you are not. > > You have a grudge alright, but you are just too far up yourself to notice. Blah blah blah. More trash talk and nothing else from someone getting challenged in a video game. You’re a coward and a weakling. This, of course, comes as absolutely no surprise to anyone who knows you around here. Although I’m sure everyone is looking forward to more stories about kill marks on ships and entire fleets docking up at your mere presence. Hey @Gix_Firebrand, can I get a Dracvlad quote? Make sure to say something genuinely nice to him. This court jester has overstayed his welcome. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/92 "2022-02-10T22:43:10Z")
> [@Aiko Danuja](#): > > Unless your PvP engagement meets these criteria, there will be no fight. He will not fight someone who wants to fight, he will not fight someone who has a chance to win. He will only engage in a situation where he is confident of 100% total victory. Cant’ help but point out that 90% of that could equally as well describe gankers. You have it all honed so you only go for those you know you can defeat…and likewise where you are confident of victory against someone who won’t put up a fight. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/93 "2022-02-10T22:49:37Z")
You absolutely do not know what you are talking about. If you want to understand ganking, why don’t you try it? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/94 "2022-02-10T22:51:27Z")
Aiko, I think Cilla is right. You should from now on only gank targets that you don’t know you can defeat. Why _shouldn’t_ ganking be honorable, like all other EVE activities? ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/95 "2022-02-10T22:54:00Z")
> [@Aiko Danuja](#): > > You absolutely do not know what you are talking about. Oh…but you can’t say specifically which bit of what I said was wrong, or actually refute any of it. I mean, clearly and obviously you _don’t_ fight ‘those who want a fight’. That is 100% true. None of your victims come up and say ’ excuse me…but I’d quite like it if 23 Catalysts destroyed my hauler’. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/96 "2022-02-10T22:55:45Z")
> [@Cilla Cybin](#): > > you can’t actually refute any of it I don’t need to teach you anything. I don’t owe you anything. If you want to learn how to gank, come and try it. Until then, expect that gankers will endlessly mock your blatant ignorance and naive assumptions. > [@Cilla Cybin](#): > > None of your victims come up and say ’ excuse me…but I’d quite like it if 23 Catalysts destroyed my hauler’. That’s obviously incorrect as well - you should read the blog. It’s not uncommon for miners to ask us to gank them, and they even pay us to do it. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/97 "2022-02-10T23:02:30Z")
> [@Aiko Danuja](#): > > It’s not uncommon for miners to ask us to gank them Yes, well, I guess there’s always gonna be a few who log into Eve from padded cells. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 12:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/98 "2022-02-11T00:56:59Z")
> [@Cilla Cybin](#): > > Cant’ help but point out that 90% of that could equally as well describe gankers. You have it all honed so you only go for those you know you can defeat…and likewise where you are confident of victory against someone who won’t put up a fight. LOL. So does every PvPer. You think pirates only kill those that got a fair shot at killing them? Do you even know tactics? Maybe read up on Sun Tzu or Five Rings ROFL. As my sensei once put it, honor only belongs in the dojo. In the real world? You better win that fight as fast and as mean as you can, and then dig out before the cops come. > [@Cilla Cybin](#): > > Oh…but you can’t say specifically which bit of what I said was wrong, or actually refute any of it. I mean, clearly and obviously you _don’t_ fight ‘those who want a fight’. That is 100% true. None of your victims come up and say ’ excuse me…but I’d quite like it if 23 Catalysts destroyed my hauler’. You realize the factor CONCORD plays right? Ganking is a highly specialized form of PvP, due to the rules imposed by high sec. > [@Cilla Cybin](#): > > Yes, well, I guess there’s always gonna be a few who log into Eve from padded cells. Oof that abelism again. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 3:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/99 "2022-02-11T03:29:18Z")
> [@Aiko Danuja](#): > > If you want to understand ganking, why don’t you try it? What is there to understand ? Of course you want it all to seem incredibly difficult. But you guys just tether up to some structure so you can’t be got…you wait for scouts to notify someone is coming through a gate…then you all warp off and pounce on some hapless victim. With 50 of you each scoring 2% of the hit…you _can’t_ really go wrong ! You know that at Uedama you’ve got up to 20 seconds before Concord show up…which is precisely why you gank there. That doesn’t even require alpha shots. Which bit is difficult ? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 3:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/100 "2022-02-11T03:29:37Z")
> [@Cilla Cybin](#): > > What is there to understand ? With that attitude, it’s no wonder that you remain ignorant. If ganking is so easy - why don’t you do it? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 3:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/101 "2022-02-11T03:32:07Z")
> [@Aiko Danuja](#): > > If ganking is so easy - why don’t you do it? I won’t be ganking defenceless miners when I do 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 3:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/102 "2022-02-11T03:33:44Z")
So when are you going to start ganking? 💁‍♀️ ⏱ ⌛ ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 3:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/103 "2022-02-11T03:41:24Z")
Well, with almost every day adding extra DPS from skills queue…not long now. The real pain in the ass is still having to wait 14 days for heavy missile skills. But I’ve already got quite a collection of high DPS ships…and I must say I do like the Thrasher. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 3:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/104 "2022-02-11T03:52:13Z")
Ok, let us know when you are done theorycrafting. 🔬 👩‍🔬 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836.md?page=6)