# Suspect/criminal timer and player owned stations **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Tags:** high-sec\ **Created:** [February 7, 2022, 3:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836 "2022-02-07T03:46:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/125 "2022-02-11T06:46:13Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > 45km range. Probably more after a few extra skills. And a pile of clone soldier tags already stored away. Unlike the other AG I don’t intend to wait until _after_ Safety have started ganking someone. Not out to ‘save’ anyone ( I care as much about AFK miners, etc as gankers do )…just to waste some ISK and have fun. If I lose a 25m ISK ship…who cares. You’re still missing an essential element. > [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > I have several Catalysts that could easily take them out. Why waste .25 security points on that. Uh, the catas won’t cut it. Also you don’t really understand what you’re saying. You’re gonna try gank the gankers, awesome. But you’ll only get 1 or 2 tops. You realize that right? You are missing the key piece. > [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > I’m only going for combat ships. My view is that if someone is in a fighting ship…they want a fight. If they didn’t want a fight they should stay in dock. I’ll happily go for Catalysts, etc…especially if they show up in red 🙂 So you’ll be a ganker then? > [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Come off it. There’s only one reason anyone buys a Catalyst…and it sure as hell ( apart from the bizarre lady referenced in a thread a few months back…who has since moved on to mining with an Algos ) is not to mine. Yea I looked for that lady. Never found her. > [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > What do you expect…given that my AG alt only started the skills queue in November. There’s separate skills queues for Gallente ships, Caldari ships, etc, skills queues for turrets, skills queues for missiles, range, tracking, yada, yada, yada. Still 14 days to go for heavy missiles. Its a wonder I’ve already got half a dozen ships to over 300 DPS and good range for cannons. > > Maybe have a word with CCP and get them to shorten the skills queues 🙂 Uh you know missiles suck for ganking right? ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/126 "2022-02-11T07:04:38Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > You are missing the key piece. Yes but so are you. NEPF may or may not ‘save’ anyone…but they are firing on ships that Concord are about to destroy anyway. But if I am proactive instead, OK so my ship gets destroyed…but in that very process I call in Concord early…before the gankers have a chance to attack. _That_ is why Aiko doesn’t want me doing that. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 7:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/127 "2022-02-11T07:07:07Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Yes but so are you. NEPF may or may not ‘save’ anyone…but they are firing on ships that Concord are about to destroy anyway. But if I am proactive instead, OK so my ship gets destroyed…but in that very process I call in Concord early…before the gankers have a chance to attack. _That_ is why Aiko doesn’t want me doing that. Sigh. Nope. That’s not it. Quafe Amarr Space Jebus. Do I really have to spell it out for you? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/128 "2022-02-11T07:08:33Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > You’re a coward and a weakling. You have been able to war dec the entity I am in since early December of last year and you have not, even though you hold yourself out as a war deccer? 18 killmarks on a Vagabond used for quick response fleets in Catch, does that annoy you, and that Jita Holdings event was amusing and happened not long after we, notice I used the word we, destroyed an End of Life Leshak fleet. By the way Jita Holdings did not dock up, they gave up on shooting a structure. What have you done? Nothing since 2014… ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/129 "2022-02-11T07:10:02Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > _That_ is why Aiko doesn’t want me doing that. Aiko doesn’t care what you do. You would have to kill thousands and thousands of Catalysts to counter just what I’ve done today. You are just _another_ fool, and some mild forum entertainment while I look for targets. Since I’m nice, I kindly suggest you find better content, but like most fools you ignore all good advice. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/130 "2022-02-11T07:21:09Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > You have been able to war dec the entity I am in since early December of last year and you have not, even though you hold yourself out as a war deccer? It’s a challenge to _you_, Dracvlad, not a challenge to _me._ Anyway, go away. @Gix_Firebrand can I have that Dracvlad quote now? ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/131 "2022-02-11T07:22:33Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Uh you know missiles suck for ganking right? It depends. If there’s 20 Catalysts, due to the short target range they’ll easily pick me off in another Catalyst. So the further the range, the better. 45km and 300 DPS is enough for Uedama…plus the first volley shot alone is 1000 DPS. The Caracal also has pretty good EHP. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/132 "2022-02-11T07:22:47Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > You have been able to war dec the entity I am in since early December of last year and you have not, even though you hold yourself out as a war deccer? > > 18 killmarks on a Vagabond used for quick response fleets in Catch, does that annoy you, and that Jita Holdings event was amusing and happened not long after we, notice I used the word we, destroyed an End of Life Leshak fleet. By the way Jita Holdings did not dock up, they gave up on shooting a structure. > > What have you done? Nothing since 2014… LOL I don’t believe any of it. Drop the killmails bruv. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > @Gix_Firebrand can I have that Dracvlad quote now? Probably like temp blocked until Easter, half past the time of the Lord’s rising? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/133 "2022-02-11T07:23:57Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > > [@Dracvlad](#): > > > > You have been able to war dec the entity I am in since early December of last year and you have not, even though you hold yourself out as a war deccer? > > > > > 18 killmarks on a Vagabond used for quick response fleets in Catch, does that annoy you, and that Jita Holdings event was amusing and happened not long after we, notice I used the word we, destroyed an End of Life Leshak fleet. By the way Jita Holdings did not dock up, they gave up on shooting a structure. > > > > > > What have you done? Nothing since 2014… > > LOL I don’t believe any of it. Drop the killmails bruv. > > > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > > > @Gix_Firebrand can I have that Dracvlad quote now? > > Probably like temp blocked until Easter, half past the time of the Lord’s rising? Thank you, good sir. Trying to time it just right to hit Hitler’s birthday this time around. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/134 "2022-02-11T07:44:30Z")
Logged on with the expectation that no war dec was incoming, was not disappointed. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/135 "2022-02-11T08:54:40Z")
I heard the top 1% of 1% supreme elite ganker lords use marauders for ganking as that gives best dps. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/136 "2022-02-11T14:54:01Z")
DPS isn’t everything Cilla also wants to have good EHP. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/137 "2022-02-11T14:56:05Z")
Even better a marauder fulfills that as well. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/138 "2022-02-11T17:30:38Z")
I just hope Cilly doesn’t try to antigank in a Marshal. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/139 "2022-02-11T19:39:48Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > with our honorable New Order brethren or royality. Haha that’s a joke honourable Hope your well ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/140 "2022-02-11T20:03:40Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > 45km and 300 DPS is enough for Uedama Remember your application with heavy missiles on a catalyst from 45k out is gonna be both delayed and garbage. And if you are ‘proactively’ ganking gankers, CONCORD is gonna dumpster you before you get off that many salvoes. There is a reason no one ganks with heavy missiles ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/141 "2022-02-11T21:20:59Z")
> [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](#): > > Remember your application with heavy missiles on a catalyst from 45k out is gonna be both delayed and garbage. And if you are ‘proactively’ ganking gankers, CONCORD is gonna dumpster you before you get off that many salvoes. There is a reason no one ganks with heavy missiles She’s been told several times. Its why I think either the alt doesn’t exist or she’s trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/142 "2022-02-11T21:22:01Z")
Why are you guys trying to discourage her? Heavy missile precounterantiganking is totally viable. Just, whatever you do, don’t sit on the gate in a Marshal or Nestor. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/143 "2022-02-11T21:23:57Z")
Heh well I guess she’ll see. I dunno if she can even pop the first cata before CONCORD shows up. ---
**Author:** ![Dyvinex\_Ssasen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dyvinex_ssasen/32/303752_2.png) [@Dyvinex\_Ssasen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dyvinex_Ssasen)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836/144 "2022-02-11T21:35:39Z")
I for one am very glad to see somebody being proactive and countergank before the ganking starts. I can’t wait to see the HML hisec pvp begin, and don’t know why anyone is discouraging her. Still waiting for those Snow Caps and Popcorn from the other thread. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suspect-criminal-timer-and-player-owned-stations/348836.md?page=8)