# T3C, where to learn? **URL:** \ **Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\ **Created:** [August 25, 2017, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/t3c-where-to-learn/19604 "2017-08-25T07:59:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 6
**Author:** ![Zhilia\_Mann](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhilia_mann/32/214674_2.png) [@Zhilia\_Mann](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhilia_Mann)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/t3c-where-to-learn/19604/6 "2017-08-26T06:10:38Z")
If I were to model a Proteus for exploration, it would look something like this: [Proteus, explo] Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Corpum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer Corpum A-Type Energized Kinetic Membrane Corpum A-Type Energized Thermal Membrane 10MN Afterburner II Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II 250mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M 250mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M 250mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M 250mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M 250mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M 250mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Proteus Core - Augmented Fusion Reactor Proteus Defensive - Covert Reconfiguration Proteus Offensive - Hybrid Encoding Platform Proteus Propulsion - Hyperspatial Optimization Drones are whatever. Lows are expensive and geared towards kin/therm tanking. Honestly if you’re just doing that you can downgrade. If you throw in EM/exp you’re probably looking at the same basic quality range (C-type repper or better/C-type hardeners or B-type membranes or better). The magstabs… well, you have to kill things in a somewhat timely fashion. I’m not in love with the range on the guns (22+33 with antimatter or 44+33 with lead). Damage is… fine. At least with the upgraded magstabs. Honestly, 658 is pretty decent if you’re able to stick to antimatter but the range envelope means you won’t be able to do so consistently. As for some other options… A Tengu might look something like this: [Tengu, explo killer] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Pith C-Type Large Shield Booster Thukker Large Cap Battery Missile Guidance Computer II Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Range Script Pithum C-Type Kinetic Deflection Amplifier Pithum C-Type Thermal Dissipation Amplifier Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Tengu Core - Augmented Graviton Reactor Tengu Defensive - Covert Reconfiguration Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Chassis Optimization As long as you’re up against Guristas/Serpentis, this thing is solid. 703 DPS to 56 or 550 DPS to 84. And that’s without playing around with scripts. Tight on grid; unfortunately you have to use the expensive battery to make the Pith large work. Ballistic controls are somewhat optional here; you have some damage wiggle room on this fit. Deflection amps are dirt cheap; use deadspace. Both of the above options really only shine against Serpentis/Guristas though. If you were to want to branch out against BR/Sansha, you could do worse than a HAM Loki these days. Sample fit might look like this: [Loki, exploration armor missiles] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Corpum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer Corpum A-Type Energized Thermal Membrane Corpum A-Type Energized EM Membrane Corelum C-Type 10MN Afterburner Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Range Script Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Range Script Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Salvager II Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Loki Core - Augmented Nuclear Reactor Loki Defensive - Covert Reconfiguration Loki Offensive - Launcher Efficiency Configuration Loki Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers Drones are whatever again. Missile range is a touch on the low side; 49.4km with 576 DPS, but it’s fully selectable. So that’s at least decent. Against Angels you could do worse than a HAM Legion. Perhaps something like this: [Legion, explo HAM angel] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Damage Control II Corpum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer Corpum C-Type Energized Explosive Membrane Corpum A-Type Energized Kinetic Membrane Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Range Script Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Range Script 10MN Afterburner II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Assault Missile [Empty High slot] Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I Legion Core - Augmented Antimatter Reactor Legion Defensive - Covert Reconfiguration Legion Offensive - Assault Optimization Legion Propulsion - Wake Limiter Valkyrie II x5 Drones do matter here since the missile sub is short a launcher and long a drone bonus. A classic shield fit could also work; you could conceivably refit the Tengu above. You could also try a shield Loki: [Loki, exploration shield missiles] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Ballistic Control System II Shield Boost Amplifier II Pithum B-Type Medium Shield Booster Pithum A-Type Explosive Deflection Amplifier Pithum B-Type Kinetic Deflection Amplifier 10MN Afterburner II Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Range Script Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Assault Missile Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe [Empty High slot] Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Loki Core - Dissolution Sequencer Loki Defensive - Covert Reconfiguration Loki Offensive - Launcher Efficiency Configuration Loki Propulsion - Wake Limiter (That’s total spitballing. All these fits are to an extent, but that one was really thrown together.) So, some themes to draw from. 1. I’d really recommend three faction damage mods to get your site completion time down. 2. Two damage application mods are a must; more are often helpful. Missile fits need them more than gun fits since you can mitigate damage reduction through piloting on a gun fit. 3. Shield fits with a large cap battery can tank like no one’s business. Armor fits just don’t tank as hard so you might have to use higher end mods. 4. Three slot tanks are usually all you have room for; choose carefully. 5. I really like Sisters launchers. You don’t really need them for most purposes but I’m spoiled. So… does that count as general guidance? --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/t3c-where-to-learn/19604)._