# T4 Missions in empire AF/HAC **URL:** \ **Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\ **Created:** [July 13, 2024, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/t4-missions-in-empire-af-hac/455862 "2024-07-13T20:52:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/t4-missions-in-empire-af-hac/455862/22 "2024-07-14T19:05:00Z")
> [@stefnia\_Freir](#): > > Just because nobody can force you to play in a specific way, does not mean that your way of playing is not bad. Maybe take your own advice some time? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Sojourner\_Sa\_an](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sojourner_sa_an/32/426480_2.png) [@Sojourner\_Sa\_an](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sojourner_Sa_an)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 3:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/t4-missions-in-empire-af-hac/455862/23 "2024-07-16T03:49:39Z")
I can run L4 missions in a cap-stable ishtar with dual medium armor reps. It’s useful from time to time when an agent gives you a mission in lowsec or something easy that you would prefer a smaller ship for. I probably can’t run all of them and wouldn’t even bother trying on a mission like blockade. Even if I could it would be too inefficient when there are better ships for the job. ---
**Author:** ![Kalixa\_Hihro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalixa_hihro/32/480491_2.png) [@Kalixa\_Hihro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalixa_Hihro)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2024, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/t4-missions-in-empire-af-hac/455862/24 "2024-07-20T23:09:37Z")
Basically fit a kronos much like a megathron? The rails vs blasters is really preference… I’m finishing up training to get one in the next few weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Kalixa\_Hihro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalixa_hihro/32/480491_2.png) [@Kalixa\_Hihro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalixa_Hihro)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2024, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/t4-missions-in-empire-af-hac/455862/25 "2024-07-20T23:10:17Z")
I was running L4s in a blaster fit Ishtar without too much trouble, usually. For drone missions I had to kind of lure some out at a time. Trying to run in and brawl with them like most of the other missions cost me a HAC lol. Right now I’m running a Megathron navy issue fit with rails. I finish missions slower than a blaster boat probably would but faster than the hac, and it’s a lot safer sniping. If you start out 140km away (using spike) you can pop the frigates with one volley, and the cruisers in 3-5 depending on how tanky they are. Then I swap to javelin ammo and micro jump right on top of the battleships. You can shred them form 8k away or even less, and at that distance the drones are fast as hell because the big slow ones don’t need to go 50km just to get at the target. Optimal range with my setup is 18km with javelin but it does a ton of damage anywhere inside that optimal. It also helps to poiht your ship in the same direction as the enemy BS so you get the transversal velocity down to nil . It helps a _lot_ with tracking. Hope this helps? ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/t4-missions-in-empire-af-hac/455862/26 "2024-07-21T00:28:38Z")
> [@Kalixa\_Hihro](#): > > Basically fit a kronos much like a megathron? The rails vs blasters is really preference… I’m finishing up training to get one in the next few weeks. Here, you may find this thread informative. Enjoy the Kronos. > [@Blaster or railgun Kronos for level 4?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blaster-or-railgun-kronos-for-level-4/453869): > > I have been playing with Vargur and Paladin. Even though artillery Vargur has, on paper, a huge alpha, it’s noticeably slower at clearing rats than an autocannon one. For Paladin, it’s the opposite. Due to rats in Amarr using tracking disruptors, which significantly shortens the optimal range, a sniping beam Paladin with MJD is much better solution than a pulse Paladin. I would like to use a Kronos for a while and was looking at fits on Eve Workbench, but I’m still unclear on whether blasters… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2024, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/t4-missions-in-empire-af-hac/455862/27 "2024-10-19T00:29:33Z")
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