# Tackling hate speech, fostering mutual respect and countering the tyranny of the majority

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tackling-hate-speech-fostering-mutual-respect-and-countering-the-tyranny-of-the-majority/234390>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [April 21, 2020, 3:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tackling-hate-speech-fostering-mutual-respect-and-countering-the-tyranny-of-the-majority/234390 "2020-04-21T03:52:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Deirdre\_Locke](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deirdre_locke/32/193786_2.png) [@Deirdre\_Locke](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deirdre_Locke)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tackling-hate-speech-fostering-mutual-respect-and-countering-the-tyranny-of-the-majority/234390/41 "2020-04-21T10:53:44Z")

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If someone needs SO many words to say something really basic and simple it’s generally not worth reading and quite often just a smokescreen.

I’ll point you to George Carlin and leave it at that.

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**Author:** ![Mock\_Eoner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mock_eoner/32/313591_2.png) [@Mock\_Eoner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mock_Eoner)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tackling-hate-speech-fostering-mutual-respect-and-countering-the-tyranny-of-the-majority/234390/42 "2020-04-21T11:01:00Z")

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I can still hate furries right?

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**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tackling-hate-speech-fostering-mutual-respect-and-countering-the-tyranny-of-the-majority/234390/43 "2020-04-21T11:06:06Z")

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> [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](#):
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> It’s been proven that in itself, what you are asking for, by asking it in this manner, is in fact a form of bullying. What you posted is what preceded calls for a “Code of Conduct”.
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> Anybody who works in tech, in open source to be specific, knows this pattern. You won’t help if you accuse me of being hateful for pointing this out. But if you did, I would not be surprised. Because that’s what people using the speech that you are using now are known to do.
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> You did already take the point of pre-determining everybody who disagrees with you as “vile trolls”. That’s a huge tell right there. Whatever guide you are using to compile your post is not a good one.  
> Best to leave it alone and file a ticket if you are offended.
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> And don’t worry, there are plenty of other players already using “being offended” as as sort of weapon so CCP is very good at judging each case INDIVIDUALLY and weeding out the real incidents from the fake ones. It’s a far better system than using some “code of conduct” that is too vague and subjective to be effective or judicial. And calling them “uncaring” or whatever for doing it the way they have been doing it for years would not be met with much surprise.

Spot on and fixed the formatting. When someone declares “You behave like I want, else you’re out” then that person demands censorship, hates free speech and can’t deal with the real world, to which there is only one correct response.

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**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tackling-hate-speech-fostering-mutual-respect-and-countering-the-tyranny-of-the-majority/234390/44 "2020-04-21T11:06:53Z")

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> [@Deirdre\_Locke](#):
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> I’ll point you to George Carlin and leave it at that.

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/8/8/98838e1544170b7ed11606f4e11a6a83f7174722.jpeg "George Carlin Political Correctness is fascism pretending to be Manners (archived mirrored vid)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asZ1R-Xylj4)

Therefore, dear OP:

Take your inability to deal with the real world and your lack of acceptance other humans as they are and ■■■■ right off. Your personal issues should never be a reason for everyone else to behave like you want them to.

You know who else were big fans of political correctness? Hitler, Lenin and Stalin! In case you didn’t quite get the message: ■■■■ off.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tackling-hate-speech-fostering-mutual-respect-and-countering-the-tyranny-of-the-majority/234390/45 "2020-04-21T11:07:11Z")

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> [@Mock\_Eoner](#):
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> I can still hate furries right?

U can hate Furry Animals even if they’re humans in costumes if you must.

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**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tackling-hate-speech-fostering-mutual-respect-and-countering-the-tyranny-of-the-majority/234390/46 "2020-04-21T11:14:36Z")

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No, you can’t. You have to behave how the fascists want you to behave. You have to listen to those who dictate what you can and can not say while pretending they’re good people. You have to listen to those who are so emotionally crippled, they can’t deal with anyone saying things they don’t like.

Yes. Emotionally crippled.

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**Author:** ![Aphrodite\_Sexy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aphrodite_sexy/32/420261_2.png) [@Aphrodite\_Sexy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aphrodite_Sexy)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tackling-hate-speech-fostering-mutual-respect-and-countering-the-tyranny-of-the-majority/234390/48 "2020-04-21T11:32:37Z")

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I find it funny that after my post the normal discussion turned into a trollhfest (hey that’s an actual word!).

> [@Solecist\_Project](#):
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> Hello there, OP!  
> You’re not welcome!

Ok.

> [@Solecist\_Project](#):
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> OP: [Liana Corfax | Character | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/character/2113485334/)  
> OP’s corp: [Rusted and Rejuvenated | Corporation | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98617850/)

??

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tackling-hate-speech-fostering-mutual-respect-and-countering-the-tyranny-of-the-majority/234390/49 "2020-04-21T11:33:02Z")

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nah mate, i grew up inner city; i know that which of i speaketh. Thankfully.

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tackling-hate-speech-fostering-mutual-respect-and-countering-the-tyranny-of-the-majority/234390/50 "2020-04-21T11:34:23Z")

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> [@Aphrodite\_Sexy](#):
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> trollhfest

i lol’d

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/9/39bc603900a919ce27844b3119bea2227bc252ae.png)

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tackling-hate-speech-fostering-mutual-respect-and-countering-the-tyranny-of-the-majority/234390/51 "2020-04-21T11:34:47Z")

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> [@Aphrodite\_Sexy](#):
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> according to google i’m potentially a huge pervert

> **[Aphrodite Sexy | Character](https://zkillboard.com/character/2114500678/)**
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> Aphrodite Sexy: 205 ships destroyed and 169 ships lost.

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**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tackling-hate-speech-fostering-mutual-respect-and-countering-the-tyranny-of-the-majority/234390/52 "2020-04-21T11:38:34Z")

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![tenor (3)](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/2/0238c8e06afa5a16272c5453f37938f2cb866c4c.gif)

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tackling-hate-speech-fostering-mutual-respect-and-countering-the-tyranny-of-the-majority/234390/53 "2020-04-21T11:40:19Z")

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Deer too fast, sheep much better.

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tackling-hate-speech-fostering-mutual-respect-and-countering-the-tyranny-of-the-majority/234390/54 "2020-04-21T11:42:23Z")

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And so soft and fluffy!

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**Author:** ![Aphrodite\_Sexy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aphrodite_sexy/32/420261_2.png) [@Aphrodite\_Sexy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aphrodite_Sexy)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tackling-hate-speech-fostering-mutual-respect-and-countering-the-tyranny-of-the-majority/234390/55 "2020-04-21T11:45:38Z")

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I can do this too, and I have PVP alts. I know it doesn’t sound believable but still… you do realize that the last kill in lowsec that’s a frigate or bigger is like months ago right?

I can do this too, they have to fix the quoting thing

> [@Solecist\_Project](#):
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> I’m a fascist shithole (hey they didn’t censor it). What the ■■■■ is an echo chamber.

“google says”

Also you can’t judge people on their kbs. That’s killboardist (George carlin). Also misinformed, as I said I have PVP alts (I have them because I don’t want to ruin that kb more).

Now I’m part of the trollhfest.

You haven’t seen the last of me, Luke Skywalker/Some other anime protagonist.

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**Author:** ![Aphrodite\_Sexy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aphrodite_sexy/32/420261_2.png) [@Aphrodite\_Sexy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aphrodite_Sexy)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tackling-hate-speech-fostering-mutual-respect-and-countering-the-tyranny-of-the-majority/234390/57 "2020-04-21T11:49:37Z")

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Ok, fine, changed the quote to your liking.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tackling-hate-speech-fostering-mutual-respect-and-countering-the-tyranny-of-the-majority/234390/58 "2020-04-21T11:52:02Z")

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“Sometimes at night i cover myself in Vaseline and pretend i’m a slug”

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tackling-hate-speech-fostering-mutual-respect-and-countering-the-tyranny-of-the-majority/234390/59 "2020-04-21T11:54:31Z")

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> [@Aphrodite\_Sexy](#):
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> Ok, fine, changed the quote to your liking.

Look, asshole. It’s not complicated. When you suggest to ignore someone, then you’re ultimately promoting echo chambers. That’s how this works. When someone says something you don’t like and tell others to ignore him, then what you’re doing is trying to socially isolate him from the rest.

The reason, why you’re doing that, is because you want to get rid of him. You want the world to be like how you see it, with zero regards for how others see it. Zero regards for the feelings and perspectives of others. And no, you can’t turn that around. I don’t need to allow someone to attempt limiting our freedom of speech. That’s not how freedom of speech and tolerance works!

Tolerating intolerant assholes will eventually lead to them running over us, and I’m not going to stand here, or anywhere, letting that happen. When you use your freedom of speech to promote its reduction, then you’ve given up your right to freedom of speech.

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**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tackling-hate-speech-fostering-mutual-respect-and-countering-the-tyranny-of-the-majority/234390/60 "2020-04-21T12:01:04Z")

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> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> “Sometimes at night i cover myself in Vaseline and pretend i’m a slug”

That’s cute. Disgusting, but cute! 😃 Please watch out, though, as there might be mentally ill people in this very thread, who might want you not to put such images into their heads. They can’t handle the real world and rather demand everyone else pretends that such sick minds like themselves are not just the norm, but also have the moral high ground.

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tackling-hate-speech-fostering-mutual-respect-and-countering-the-tyranny-of-the-majority/234390/61 "2020-04-21T12:02:08Z")

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> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> “Sometimes at night i cover myself in Vaseline and pretend i’m a slug”

Oooohhh I like it! Let’s cuddle! 🥰 🥰 🥰

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**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tackling-hate-speech-fostering-mutual-respect-and-countering-the-tyranny-of-the-majority/234390/62 "2020-04-21T12:06:16Z")

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> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#):
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> Belief or not, there’s truth in the old prayer - _grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference._

All I could think about when I read the above was" ooh just gimme me some freaking magic before i kill somebody" says my blood elf mage.

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