# Ten years later. A love letter and some vids to lost players

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ten-years-later-a-love-letter-and-some-vids-to-lost-players/517172>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [August 27, 2026, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ten-years-later-a-love-letter-and-some-vids-to-lost-players/517172 "2026-08-27T17:31:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tommy\_Knife](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tommy_knife/32/509144_2.png) [@Tommy\_Knife](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tommy_Knife)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ten-years-later-a-love-letter-and-some-vids-to-lost-players/517172/1 "2026-08-27T17:31:52Z")

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Just saw a YT vid targeting old players whom quit the game around 2012 - 2014. when Mittani and Goons were a thing. A period of time when EvE become more than a game, but a extreme environement where a player ceased to exist just because the abuse and bullying of these people. People whom were officially supported by CCP.

Now, same as me … a lot of people quit the game at that time, not because of Goons and Mitanni, but mostly how this issue was handled by CCP. Now, they still got our emals and ask us to come back. Also, there are some YT vids about “ten years later in EvE”. Where the good news is … hi sec is no more hi sec.

Now, question is why I would come back into a game that is way more toxic than it was before? This is not even a criticism, but rather questioning the marketing campaign. Why you want back people whom quit the game just because it got too extreme?

Is like … I live now in EU. So why I’m asked to get back in Somalia? Is there anyone sane in this company whom trully believe that I will ever return to this shithole? I mean .. c’mon

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ten-years-later-a-love-letter-and-some-vids-to-lost-players/517172/2 "2026-08-27T17:36:31Z")

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You are already back…

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2026, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ten-years-later-a-love-letter-and-some-vids-to-lost-players/517172/3 "2026-08-28T10:51:00Z")

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> [@Tommy\_Knife](#):
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> Now, question is why I would come back into a game that is way more toxic than it was before? This is not even a criticism, but rather questioning the marketing campaign. Why you want back people whom quit the game just because it got too extreme?

Why do you think the game is more toxic than before?

What is your idea of ‘toxicity’ and what suggests to you there’s more of it now?

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**Author:** ![Lucy\_Alfrir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucy_alfrir/32/382506_2.png) [@Lucy\_Alfrir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucy_Alfrir)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2026, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ten-years-later-a-love-letter-and-some-vids-to-lost-players/517172/4 "2026-08-28T11:51:02Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> What is your idea of ‘toxicity’ and what suggests to you there’s more of it now?

Playing PvE content in a personal sharded universe.

Well we have Abyssals now.

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**Author:** ![Tommy\_Knife](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tommy_knife/32/509144_2.png) [@Tommy\_Knife](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tommy_Knife)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2026, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ten-years-later-a-love-letter-and-some-vids-to-lost-players/517172/5 "2026-09-10T12:48:57Z")

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Truth be told… I’m surprised to see that this post hasn’t been removed and that I’m not banned. I’m not even sure how to react to that. And this is a bit weird compared to… let’s say, Star Citizen, where a similar question would result in a 10-year ban on Spectrum (and / or Reddit).

@[Aiko Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/aiko_danuja)  
No, I’m not, and I never will be. Never ever will I touch this game again in my life, no matter what. The Mittani and James era left a permanent scar in my mind. It’s just this YT clip that I saw a few weeks ago that reminded me of the 7 years I wasted in this game. For me, it’s like seeing an ad on TV saying, “Come back to Somalia, the land of the free.”

Since I left EvE (forever), I’m totally dedicated to SC. And even if there is a strong push in the EvE direction by some (ex-EvE) players, where ganking and ruining other players’ enjoyment is a lifestyle, SC will never become EvE 2.

The only thing I wanna congratulate EvE on is the collab with Google. That is impressive. Good luck.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2026, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ten-years-later-a-love-letter-and-some-vids-to-lost-players/517172/6 "2026-09-10T12:50:12Z")

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You are very dramatic.

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**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2026, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ten-years-later-a-love-letter-and-some-vids-to-lost-players/517172/7 "2026-09-10T12:57:23Z")

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They do have a point though.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2026, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ten-years-later-a-love-letter-and-some-vids-to-lost-players/517172/8 "2026-09-10T12:59:04Z")

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I’m not sure they do. They are whining about players who quit the game years ago, but beyond that there’s not much substance.

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**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2026, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ten-years-later-a-love-letter-and-some-vids-to-lost-players/517172/9 "2026-09-10T13:01:47Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> They are whining about players who quit the game years ago, but beyond that there’s not much substance.

They are asking why would they come back to a game where the culture is no different, if not worse than what it was during the era when they quit? The recent ‘incident’ with a certain youtuber smacks of the T20 fiasco all over again.

I would not recommend anyone starting the same 15 year journey I am currently on. The only reason I am here is leaving lets down the people who depend on those who stay to keep going.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2026, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ten-years-later-a-love-letter-and-some-vids-to-lost-players/517172/10 "2026-09-10T13:03:13Z")

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Right, except the culture is different, and clearly better than it was a decade ago… and the recent ‘incident’ was hardly comparable.

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**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2026, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ten-years-later-a-love-letter-and-some-vids-to-lost-players/517172/11 "2026-09-10T13:06:24Z")

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Rules for thee, rules for me. Does not matter how many or how famous, its that there is a distinction at all. If by any measure things are better, it only in that there are fewer people but with more accounts.

That is not a sign of good health.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2026, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ten-years-later-a-love-letter-and-some-vids-to-lost-players/517172/12 "2026-09-10T13:08:13Z")

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Well, I’m having fun!

🎉

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**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2026, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ten-years-later-a-love-letter-and-some-vids-to-lost-players/517172/13 "2026-09-10T13:10:14Z")

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Me too, though I would prefer the most rewarding part of the game was not having a productive discussion on its forum. ☹

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**Author:** ![BangoSKank](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bangoskank/32/493034_2.png) [@BangoSKank](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BangoSKank)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2026, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ten-years-later-a-love-letter-and-some-vids-to-lost-players/517172/14 "2026-09-10T13:33:43Z")

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Pointless drivel. Complaining about toxicity while being toxic. Just go away.

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2026, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ten-years-later-a-love-letter-and-some-vids-to-lost-players/517172/15 "2026-09-10T13:42:00Z")

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> [@Tommy\_Knife](#):
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> Now, question is why I would come back into a game that is way more toxic than it was before?

You lost 3 pods and 2 Corvettes…‘before’. I’ve had greater toxicity making a slice of toast.

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**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2026, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ten-years-later-a-love-letter-and-some-vids-to-lost-players/517172/16 "2026-09-10T15:58:30Z")

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Yeah but these folk in here care little for Game health and more about catering for their Own constant craving for emotional response to their daft acts. Give them non and the Hate channels and blogs will just run dry .
