# TEST vs Goons: this war is a joke

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 28, 2020, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894 "2020-06-28T11:10:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Deirdre\_Parud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deirdre_parud/32/215836_2.png) [@Deirdre\_Parud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deirdre_Parud)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/185 "2020-07-19T01:43:03Z")

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> [@Tintallei\_Sharan](#):
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> My group

I don’t see NC. as “one of the large cattle coalitions”. From history NC has never been about quantity.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/186 "2020-07-19T01:43:31Z")

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> [@Tintallei\_Sharan](#):
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> undeniably the biggest PvP event currently available in game.

Didn’t CCP just introduce PVP arenas? “Undeniably” might be a tad bit too strong a word.

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**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/188 "2020-07-19T01:47:28Z")

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> [@Xeux](#):
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> Didn’t CCP just introduce PVP arenas? “Undeniably” might be a tad bit too strong a word.

Lol

> [@Deirdre\_Parud](#):
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> I don’t see NC. as “one of the large cattle coalitions”. From history NC has never been about quantity.

By “my group” I meant “my corp” that joined NC. specifically for the war, the day it started officially ^^

But, yeah, you have a point tho, NC. is not PH or Goonswarm

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/189 "2020-07-19T01:49:53Z")

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Laugh all you want. This thread is about how the non-nullsec guys think you guys are the joke.

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**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 1:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/190 "2020-07-19T01:53:04Z")

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Am I supposed to care if a carebear who mainly kill mining barges and now consider a safe space to do friendly skirmishes between 4 T1 cruisers as a “big PvP event” think I’m a joke? I missed the memo about it

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/191 "2020-07-19T01:54:07Z")

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I am not the only person in this thread, macho man.

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**Author:** ![Serene\_Repose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/serene_repose/32/384960_2.png) [@Serene\_Repose](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Serene_Repose)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 3:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/192 "2020-07-19T03:37:15Z")

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> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#):
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> Great idea except for we’re not the ones making these types of requests/threads…

I’m sorry. That excuse won’t fly. The way you “objected” said it all. Kinda pointless to back pedal and pretend it was something _else_ the whole time. Oh, and “we’re” . . . you don’t look like a group to _me_.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 3:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/193 "2020-07-19T03:39:13Z")

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LOL…it wont fly…keep crying…

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**Author:** ![Serene\_Repose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/serene_repose/32/384960_2.png) [@Serene\_Repose](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Serene_Repose)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 4:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/194 "2020-07-19T04:20:57Z")

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Umm…you must have me mixed up with some whole other body. Mind pointing out where I cried about something? I think your imagination has run away with you, and driven you into a tree.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 4:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/195 "2020-07-19T04:21:44Z")

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More please…keep it coming… 🧂

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**Author:** ![Serene\_Repose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/serene_repose/32/384960_2.png) [@Serene\_Repose](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Serene_Repose)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/196 "2020-07-19T04:22:19Z")

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Oh, you’re one of those. Now I know.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/197 "2020-07-19T04:23:19Z")

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A little more…pleeeeease…

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/198 "2020-07-19T07:23:25Z")

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> [@Deirdre\_Parud](#):
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> The majority of people don’t join a massive collective because they are looking for a fight, they join it to become part of that collective: to hide in it so they can hide their low effort play style and can grind in peace.
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> People who are actively looking for conflict will generally join smaller entities that are more mobile, that aren’t held back as much by carebear politics and which are easier to attack others and BE attacked by others.
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> There are exceptions of course but those are exactly that: exceptions. The vast VAST majority of people who join massive groups do so because they want the safety of the pack herd where they don’t have to think for themselves.

That is a whole lot of unfounded assumptions. Have you asked, at least a few, players why they join big groups?

> [@Deirdre\_Parud](#):
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> The majority of people don’t join a massive collective

How do you know this?

> [@Deirdre\_Parud](#):
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> part of that collective: to hide in it

Do they now? Or is it they join and because they learn to cooperate they create a safer environment in an otherwise lethal one?

> [@Deirdre\_Parud](#):
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> low effort play style

I will just say you have no idea what you’re talking about.

> [@Deirdre\_Parud](#):
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> People who are actively looking for conflict will generally join smaller entities

And you know this because you asked, at least a few players, but should have asked a representative number of the player base. I take a wild guess: you haven’t.

> [@Deirdre\_Parud](#):
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> that aren’t held back as much by carebear politics and which are easier to attack others and BE attacked by others.

Bollocks

> [@Deirdre\_Parud](#):
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> There are exceptions of course but those are exactly that: exceptions.

And you know this because you asked, at least a few players, but should have asked a representative number of the player base.

> [@Deirdre\_Parud](#):
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> The vast VAST majority of people who join massive groups do so because they want the safety of the pack herd where they don’t have to think for themselves.

And you know this because you asked, at least a few players, but should have asked a representative number of the player base.

I summarize: you’re either an idiot or you’re jealous of null sec player’s success in beating the game time and again.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/199 "2020-07-19T07:24:29Z")

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> [@Deirdre\_Parud](#):
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> I don’t see NC. as “one of the large cattle coalitions”. From history NC has never been about quantity.

Bollocks.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/200 "2020-07-19T07:26:33Z")

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> [@Xeux](#):
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> Laugh all you want. This thread is about how the non-nullsec guys think you guys are the joke.

> [@Xeux](#):
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> I am not the only person in this thread, macho man.

Wow, you’re so mean. ■■■■ off.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/201 "2020-07-19T09:58:00Z")

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Let’s ask @Darlo_Kubika what he thinks of nullsec wars.

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**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/202 "2020-07-19T14:34:51Z")

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Oh I’m SO deep in your brain…you even cannot avoid to call me out if i’m not involved in a thread…

Funny 🙂

Mission accomplished

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 3:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/203 "2020-07-20T03:56:27Z")

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Saw this yesterday: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP0BKWwS0Q8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP0BKWwS0Q8)

~1v4 losses means Goons losing this war?

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**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/204 "2020-07-20T10:51:24Z")

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> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#):
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> ~1v4 losses means Goons losing this war?

That would depend on what the losses equate to as a percentage of reserves. Consider the monthly economic reports…

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/205 "2020-07-20T11:06:14Z")

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Whoever fights in war in EVE, it will be CCP winning anyway.

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