# TEST vs Goons: this war is a joke **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 28, 2020, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894 "2020-06-28T11:10:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Magnus\_Carta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/magnus_carta/32/210653_2.png) [@Magnus\_Carta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Magnus_Carta)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/64 "2020-06-29T13:39:37Z")
> [@Derath\_Ellecon](#): > > That’s not even historically accurate. Many times the leaders are given the Nobel peace price before they kick it off. ---
**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/65 "2020-06-29T14:15:27Z")
This is how all ‘content’ has been produced in Eve in all of my 11 years. Pre-planned garbage. Forming fleets, ‘leaders’ talking to other ‘leaders’ who are set red on 3rd party communications, negotiating fleet fights with ship types and locations. LOL! This is literally the game. Real leaders would strike at random. Real content would include spontaneity. Real content would give cause to fight for something that is unique. Real content would give purpose to the game. Right now there is literally ZERO purpose for anything. Missions are the same. Incursions are the same. Abyssals are still glitchy-blingy death traps. Invasions are only for the ‘cool kid cliques’ with connections. Same old null blocs fighting the same old fights… Sad. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/66 "2020-06-29T14:33:28Z")
There were some wormholers that tried to impact null blocs, but it is mostly impossible. Null is too rich and sovereignty mechanics are purely a game of N+1 titans. ---
**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/67 "2020-06-29T15:00:58Z")
> [@you\_are\_evil](#): > > may be. but this one is not a joke. nip is annulated on 5th. mittani is pissed. goons are bored. because of BO last year all gonna prepair to fight and wanna fight. it will be “so nice” ™ ncosis. we will see. Which means nothing, as evidenced by the below. > [@you\_are\_evil](#): > > good point. idk how it affect that. maybe the loser loses it? Neither side would wish to risk losing the tower, because they all benefit from it massively. Therefore all of this is nothing but an event, _just like the annual summer war always has been_. ---
**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/68 "2020-06-29T15:01:54Z")
> [@Rocket\_Hellfire](#): > > Real leaders would strike at random. Actually, real leaders in real life formally declare war, giving the other side advanced notice. ---
**Author:** ![you\_are\_evil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/you_are_evil/32/246754_2.png) [@you\_are\_evil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/you_are_evil)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/69 "2020-06-29T15:04:21Z")
blub blub. one is about milking HS another about kick test in the ass. ---
**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/70 "2020-06-29T15:08:30Z")
Okay, so you’re a fanboy and a simpleton. Got it. ---
**Author:** ![you\_are\_evil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/you_are_evil/32/246754_2.png) [@you\_are\_evil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/you_are_evil)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/71 "2020-06-29T15:09:51Z")
and you are nullbrainer troll nonsense spamm writer ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/72 "2020-06-29T16:28:01Z")
OP is also forgetting that EVE Online is first and foremost a game of reputation. If you decide to pull a sneak attack and backstab someone you have an NIP with, you immediately gain the reputation of being untrustworthy, making it less likely that people will ever take your diplomatic agreements seriously for the rest of the game’s history. You’ve already shown that you’re willing to backstab allies out of the blue, why should anyone trust you after that? ---
**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/73 "2020-06-29T18:36:55Z")
nm i dont care ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/74 "2020-06-29T18:43:53Z")
Imagine - they could announce of canceling NIP but not announce exact date of their next actions. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/75 "2020-06-29T18:55:14Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > they could announce of canceling NIP but not announce exact date of their next actions. That would still be backstabbing. Turns out the leadership of TEST are more gentlemanly than you are and are more than happy to give ample time for their opponents to get their affairs in order. Please never be diplo for whatever corporation you’re part of. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/76 "2020-06-29T19:06:52Z")
Heaven forbid that anybody backstab The Goons. Perish the thought! ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/77 "2020-06-29T19:15:48Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > Imagine - they could announce of canceling NIP but not announce exact date of their next actions. I haven’t seen the announcement of the exact date of their next actions though. I only know it won’t happen _before_ the two weeks notice is over. ---
**Author:** ![Gergoran\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gergoran_moussou/32/381607_2.png) [@Gergoran\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gergoran_Moussou)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/78 "2020-06-29T19:38:22Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > When you inform enemy about your actions 2 weeks before - it’s not a war at all. It’s just a show for the public. Real war is when everything is Ok and next moment you are fu\*\*'d. In real life, a war officially begins when an ambassador hand-delivers a written declaration to the opposing head of state. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/79 "2020-06-29T19:53:39Z")
Oh, like back in the 1890s? There aren’t any wars anymore, they are all police actions against enemy combatants. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/80 "2020-06-29T19:55:37Z")
> [@Gergoran\_Moussou](#): > > In real life, a war officially begins when an ambassador hand-delivers a written declaration to the opposing head of state. But nothing stops you from backstabbing attack. And in fact - it’s most effective way. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/81 "2020-06-29T20:01:14Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > But nothing stops you from backstabbing attack. > And in fact - it’s most effective way. The blow to your reputation may stop you. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/82 "2020-06-29T20:16:45Z")
Who cares if you win? Winner takes everything! ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/83 "2020-06-29T20:17:59Z")
What do you get an alliance that already has everything? A fun summer war. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894.md?page=5)