# TEST vs Goons: this war is a joke

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 28, 2020, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894 "2020-06-28T11:10:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/84 "2020-06-29T20:19:19Z")

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> [@Xeux](#):
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> What do you get an alliance that already has everything?

Yet more?

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/85 "2020-06-29T20:19:41Z")

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Skins?

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**Author:** ![Valiran\_Teleros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valiran_teleros/32/504787_2.png) [@Valiran\_Teleros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valiran_Teleros)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/86 "2020-06-29T20:54:20Z")

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I’m wondering…if everyone is starved for content and want to liven things up, then why don’t Goons and Test just… **not** blue each other and let the chips fall where they will?

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/87 "2020-06-29T21:32:24Z")

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i saw mitans show today , he is pissed  
maybe war?  
im team mitans because i have bee friends bzzz bzzzz  
gogoogogogo

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**Author:** ![Gergoran\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gergoran_moussou/32/381607_2.png) [@Gergoran\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gergoran_Moussou)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/88 "2020-06-29T21:45:53Z")

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> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#):
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> But nothing stops you from backstabbing attack.  
> And in fact - it’s most effective way.

Because Pearl Harbor worked out so well…

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/89 "2020-06-29T21:52:34Z")

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> [@Gergoran\_Moussou](#):
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> Because Pearl Harbor worked out so well…

Well, if TEST retreat after succesful attack it would be a greatest mistake.  
But when they opened their cards there is no more chance for such attack.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_Nephilius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sir_nephilius/32/448890_2.png) [@Sir\_Nephilius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sir_Nephilius)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/90 "2020-06-29T22:00:02Z")

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Eh, more or less.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/91 "2020-06-29T22:00:03Z")

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I wouldn’t be surprised if those two were run by the same people, with a bunch of alts on either side. A secret surprise attack would be unlikely.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/92 "2020-06-29T22:02:36Z")

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Dont be so sure, they have enough loyal players who can secretly move fleets on positions.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/93 "2020-06-29T22:03:34Z")

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Yeah, I’m sure the other side would know something suspicious was going on though.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/94 "2020-06-29T22:05:22Z")

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You can expect something, but if you dont know exactly - you’re vulnerable

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/95 "2020-06-29T22:06:44Z")

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How long does it take to undock a Titan fleet? How vulnerable can Goons ever be with all the invulnerability timers and other delays?

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**Author:** ![Ishmael\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ishmael_ronuken/32/209150_2.png) [@Ishmael\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ishmael_Ronuken)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/96 "2020-06-29T22:17:10Z")

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When player actions are your content sometimes you have to grease the gears to get the machine rolling. War has changed. It is now a tool used by the hyper affluent of EVE as a means of entertainment. Losses? What losses? People have played for years and have enough Plex in reserves to fund a war of attrition that would last just as long. War is now a social gathering, a sincere reflection of Valhalla as capsuleers cycle between feasting and combat in its own immortal cycle.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/97 "2020-06-29T22:21:48Z")

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PLEX cant create supers from nothing.

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**Author:** ![Agondray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/agondray/32/414989_2.png) [@Agondray](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Agondray)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/98 "2020-06-30T16:40:36Z")

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> [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](#):
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> EDIT: I find it funny that it seems the GOONS are universally hated. But nobody will band together do something about it.

seems you missed the casino wars

> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#):
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> PLEX cant create supers from nothing.

you missed the eve vegas where there was a guy that runs 300 indy toons that needed a indy tab rework so he could spend less time seeing what was done. there’s thousands of indy alts that’s logon-build-log off. theres so much crap sitting in peoples hangers like that we could run the game for years with just being pvp and everyone losing ships everyday without any more mining/indy for a good long time.

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**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/99 "2020-06-30T19:34:34Z")

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300 characters for one player?

Eve is destroying civilisation

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/100 "2020-06-30T20:38:01Z")

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Then why nobody yet build Palatine Keepstar?

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**Author:** ![Francis\_Raven](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/francis_raven/32/478168_2.png) [@Francis\_Raven](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Francis_Raven)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/101 "2020-06-30T20:55:25Z")

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At this point, I think the EVE playerbase will jump at any opportunity for meaningful PVP content. This is why there is so much support and hype for both sides. TEST did the gentlemanly thing of announcing _the end of the nip_. They did not go into this announcing a war. Since the announcement, things have been escelated.

I say bring the war on. Let the fights happen. The best memories in this game are created when you give players a reason to fight, with the tools and political landscape to do so. No other game on the market compares to EVE with the feelings of laugher or dread caused by a major conflict.

People need to quit complaining and enjoy the ride.

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**Author:** ![Francis\_Raven](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/francis_raven/32/478168_2.png) [@Francis\_Raven](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Francis_Raven)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/102 "2020-06-30T20:56:11Z")

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This is what is happening.

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**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/103 "2020-06-30T21:02:31Z")

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Something happen in Eve?

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