# TEST vs Goons: this war is a joke

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 28, 2020, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894 "2020-06-28T11:10:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Serene\_Repose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/serene_repose/32/384960_2.png) [@Serene\_Repose](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Serene_Repose)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 2:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/144 "2020-07-10T02:27:41Z")

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![mortarforked](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/e/2e139852a8b12d0b9b6b6b960144a20fb7baf72b.gif)  
_And to think that ultra-war everyone loves to rave about started on accident._

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 6:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/145 "2020-07-10T06:56:38Z")

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Is this set up war still “going?”

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/146 "2020-07-10T13:05:06Z")

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Did it start?

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**Author:** ![you\_are\_evil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/you_are_evil/32/246754_2.png) [@you\_are\_evil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/you_are_evil)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/147 "2020-07-10T13:25:31Z")

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> **[Test Alliance Please Ignore | Alliance](https://zkillboard.com/alliance/498125261/)**
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> Test Alliance Please Ignore: 1,261,055 ships destroyed and 1,247,206 ships lost.

> **[Goonswarm Federation | Alliance](https://zkillboard.com/alliance/1354830081/)**
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> Goonswarm Federation: 1,981,499 ships destroyed and 1,723,108 ships lost.

> **[Period Basis | Region](https://zkillboard.com/region/10000063/)**
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> Period Basis: 233,772 ships destroyed and 0 ships lost.

and some more. lazzy to check for u.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/148 "2020-07-10T13:26:16Z")

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Has the Tranquility Trading Tower been destroyed?

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**Author:** ![you\_are\_evil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/you_are_evil/32/246754_2.png) [@you\_are\_evil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/you_are_evil)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/149 "2020-07-10T13:28:21Z")

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if America were at war with China, wold they destroy Switzerland?

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/150 "2020-07-10T13:29:42Z")

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A better comparison would be - if China and the US were at war, would the US still be able to get endless shipments of Chinese consumer goods?

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**Author:** ![you\_are\_evil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/you_are_evil/32/246754_2.png) [@you\_are\_evil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/you_are_evil)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/151 "2020-07-10T13:30:07Z")

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probably yes 😅  
this time isk is not as important as the availability of resources.

read this.

> **[A War for Professionals - INN](https://imperium.news/a-war-for-professionals/)**
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> World War Bee is not the first time around the bloc war for most of the leadership on both sides. The Mittani and most of the upper level Imperium directorate are veterans of several campaigns. Vily was on the CFC...

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/152 "2020-07-10T13:31:16Z")

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I don’t blame all these blue null blocs - the game provides no incentive to risk your “life savings” in battle. But to call this a war seems a bit weak.

How about “battle season”?

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**Author:** ![you\_are\_evil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/you_are_evil/32/246754_2.png) [@you\_are\_evil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/you_are_evil)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/153 "2020-07-10T13:35:41Z")

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idk. it can happen that at the end goons or test lose theyr space…

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**Author:** ![Tater-nuts](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tater-nuts/32/189043_2.png) [@Tater-nuts](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tater-nuts)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/154 "2020-07-10T18:16:33Z")

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Calling this a “war” is an embarrassment.

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**Author:** ![Vals\_Loeder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vals_loeder/32/192416_2.png) [@Vals\_Loeder](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vals_Loeder)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2020, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/155 "2020-07-11T07:57:50Z")

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Why is that?

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**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2020, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/156 "2020-07-12T10:55:13Z")

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Yup, less known and infamous fact that during WWII Switzerland escaped the war just because all involved parties in the war had/have their accounts there.

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**Author:** ![Rain6637](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rain6637/32/404316_2.png) [@Rain6637](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rain6637)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2020, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/157 "2020-07-12T11:15:50Z")

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Spoiler tags on the palatine keepstar not being built yet! Kindq disappointed

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**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2020, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/158 "2020-07-12T12:05:14Z")

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As I stated, the bad thing about this war is propaganda, on both sides btw. Of course, there are few really good examples.

Look. The Imperium are the initiators of this war (via many little events which happened after Bluedonut war or X47L-Q brawl), while the Legacy are the guys which canceled the NIP.

Based on propaganda, Panfam has too much ‘Casino’ ISK, but let not allow them to spend their money on buying stuff from markets. Papifam have more loses in Muninns, but not allow them to buy Muninns. We want Legacy to attack us with their Capital ships, but don’t let them to establish a Fortizar/Keepstar in our border SOV. The TCU/IHUB doesn’t matter, but lets defend their critical timers with our Capital shield. At the same time, it’s no point to troll less experienced players or players which didn’t play this game for 10 years.

During the last two years, all the involved alliances showed on MERs like 4-7 T ISK in mined minerals (just convert that into Titan, Super, BS, Cruiser numbers respectively) and around 5-10 T ISK in bounties. They could bought a ■■■■ load of required stuff during years and years. And now it is a big problem - there are not resources, ther are no Jita orders, a damn fu-king crisis, ‘codid’!

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2020, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/159 "2020-07-12T12:07:54Z")

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> [@Xeux](#):
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> Has the Tranquility Trading Tower been destroyed?

Why should it be destroyed?

I suppose at the end of this war, if it turns out to a situation where one side of the battle cannot afford to fight for the TTT anymore, only then there may be some changes. It would be strange to see such changes happen at the start of the war though, as either side can afford to fight for it right now and neither side would want to see that income go. And the war has only just begun.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2020, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/160 "2020-07-12T13:47:19Z")

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It is like telling your spouse that you want a divorce, but that the joint bank account should stay.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2020, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/161 "2020-07-12T13:50:12Z")

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… should stay \*_active during divorce_.

You seem to think that turning off the joint bank account should be the first step, while it could be convenient for both parties to keep it on until everything else is sorted. (Not that I have any experience with such a situation).

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**Author:** ![Serene\_Repose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/serene_repose/32/384960_2.png) [@Serene\_Repose](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Serene_Repose)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2020, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/162 "2020-07-12T20:38:20Z")

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Aren’t things “sorted” in a relationship the instant the first punch is thrown, i.e., the relationship is OVER. After that it’s just seeing who wins the FIGHT! But, I’ve only been married three times. What do I know?

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**Author:** ![Axhind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/axhind/32/461932_2.png) [@Axhind](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Axhind)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/163 "2020-07-14T09:12:33Z")

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Why would anyone give up free isk from high sec whiners? Test is going to get exterminated but that doesn’t mean that we can’t jointly enjoy high sec tears. That’s something entire 0.0 has in common, we have been listening to BS from high sec for over a decade.

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