# TEST vs Goons: this war is a joke **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 28, 2020, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894 "2020-06-28T11:10:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/164 "2020-07-14T09:53:24Z")
CCP should just drop Triglavian Super Caps into Null and let the Triglavians have a field with the Null Empires. ---
**Author:** ![Vals\_Loeder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vals_loeder/32/192416_2.png) [@Vals\_Loeder](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vals_Loeder)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/165 "2020-07-14T11:49:25Z")
Why should CCP do such a thing? ---
**Author:** ![Rain6637](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rain6637/32/404316_2.png) [@Rain6637](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rain6637)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2020, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/166 "2020-07-15T00:38:18Z")
they’re free to equip an entosis laser just like the rest of us ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/167 "2020-07-15T01:16:50Z")
My money is on the Imperium. I may decide to throw my assets behind Init no financial gain on the agenda. I’ll be in touch with Init diplo’s in the coming months. I’m just a high-sec mission runner, thats been monitoring the meta since 2011. Fly safe imperium. If Init is going after all those alliances then i’m in, i’ll throw everything I have behind you guys over the coming months/years. Fly safe and keep smart. Love from high-sec. ---
**Author:** ![Gergoran\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gergoran_moussou/32/381607_2.png) [@Gergoran\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gergoran_Moussou)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2020, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/168 "2020-07-15T06:38:37Z")
Their SRP fund probably needs some donations after today… ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2020, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/169 "2020-07-15T08:02:29Z")
> [@Axhind](#): > > Why would anyone give up free isk from high sec whiners? Nullsec anti-Drifter whiners perhaps? You get a taste of what hisec has and you all throw your toys around, was hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![Spruillo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spruillo/32/399314_2.png) [@Spruillo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spruillo)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/170 "2020-07-18T02:30:56Z")
We want real stats, not ratting ship losses. ---
**Author:** ![Spruillo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spruillo/32/399314_2.png) [@Spruillo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spruillo)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/171 "2020-07-18T02:37:47Z")
> [@Vals\_Loeder](#): > > Why should CCP do such a thing? Why not? ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 2:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/172 "2020-07-18T02:40:17Z")
The CSM told them not to. It would interfere with the summer slap-fight. ---
**Author:** ![you\_are\_evil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/you_are_evil/32/246754_2.png) [@you\_are\_evil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/you_are_evil)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/173 "2020-07-18T09:09:36Z")
yes, this is very difficlt since all nullseccer ratting with everything… noway to see real statistics… 🤦‍♀️ ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/d/0/d049a771e7eb832432ef5e618ccd008bf511b0d0.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Mytereal\_Knightingale](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mytereal_knightingale/32/124521_2.png) [@Mytereal\_Knightingale](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mytereal_Knightingale)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/174 "2020-07-18T11:27:37Z")
Oh please! Entitled? Is this your stock response to anyone you disagree with? They want a war to be a real war and not a dog and pony show dance for the audience with a planned score draw from the start. I don’t know why you would object to users actually wanting a war to be a ‘war’ and not a series of notified and planned engagements. ---
**Author:** ![Deirdre\_Parud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deirdre_parud/32/215836_2.png) [@Deirdre\_Parud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deirdre_Parud)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/175 "2020-07-18T11:54:03Z")
Tbh, if someone wanted a real war they’d not be part of either side and would have chosen a different group of friends to be with. ---
**Author:** ![Spruillo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spruillo/32/399314_2.png) [@Spruillo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spruillo)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/176 "2020-07-18T13:00:20Z")
I can only imagine the personal risk you endured to bring us this valuable piece of intelligence. I, too, have spy alts and captured the thinking involved in TAPI fleet ops- > [@](#): > > 22:38:52 fc: COME ON GUYS WERE GOING THIS WAY LETS GO THIS WAY VROOOOM ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/177 "2020-07-18T15:14:27Z")
> [@Deirdre\_Parud](#): > > Tbh, if someone wanted a real war they’d not be part of either side and would have chosen a different group of friends to be with. Why is that? ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/178 "2020-07-18T15:57:32Z")
> [@Mytereal\_Knightingale](#): > > Oh please! Entitled? Is this your stock response to anyone you disagree with? No, it’s my stock response to people that ■■■■■ and moan while stomping their feet demanding that the game be changed to suit what they want. The war will be as real as the “generals” want it to be…deal with it and stop holding yuor breath until CCP changes it to suit what you want. ---
**Author:** ![Serene\_Repose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/serene_repose/32/384960_2.png) [@Serene\_Repose](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Serene_Repose)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/179 "2020-07-18T17:54:18Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > No, it’s my stock response to people that ■■■■■ and moan while stomping their feet demanding that the game be changed to suit what they want. Or to keep it as is 'cause it’s like YOU want…mmhmmm _Entitled_? The word that sticks to the one who tries to throw it around. ---
**Author:** ![Deirdre\_Parud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deirdre_parud/32/215836_2.png) [@Deirdre\_Parud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deirdre_Parud)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/180 "2020-07-18T23:45:48Z")
> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > Why is that? The majority of people don’t join a massive collective because they are looking for a fight, they join it to become part of that collective: to hide in it so they can hide their low effort play style and can grind in peace. People who are actively looking for conflict will generally join smaller entities that are more mobile, that aren’t held back as much by carebear politics and which are easier to attack others and BE attacked by others. There are exceptions of course but those are exactly that: exceptions. The vast VAST majority of people who join massive groups do so because they want the safety of the pack herd where they don’t have to think for themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Deirdre\_Parud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deirdre_parud/32/215836_2.png) [@Deirdre\_Parud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deirdre_Parud)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 11:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/182 "2020-07-18T23:49:00Z")
It’s 2AM for me and I just woke up (messed up sleep cycle), so I’m not exactly at my best 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/183 "2020-07-19T01:07:37Z")
> [@Serene\_Repose](#): > > Or to keep it as is 'cause it’s like YOU want Great idea except for we’re not the ones making these types of requests/threads… ---
**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894/184 "2020-07-19T01:40:24Z")
> [@Mytereal\_Knightingale](#): > > I don’t know why you would object to users actually wanting a war to be a ‘war’ and not a series of notified and planned engagements. Okay. Care to explain how any war can be anything else than “notified and planned engagements” when the whole gameplay of this game revolve around timers that only allow you to destroy or capture anything of value during a very specific time frame? > [@Deirdre\_Parud](#): > > People who are actively looking for conflict will generally join smaller entities that are more mobile, that aren’t held back as much by carebear politics and which are easier to attack others and BE attacked by others. > > There are exceptions of course but those are exactly that: exceptions. The vast VAST majority of people who join massive groups do so because they want the safety of the pack herd where they don’t have to think for themselves. While this is most likely true in time of peace, groups that are joining a side right now as we speak are definitely people searching for a fight. My group is exactly like the groups you described, and we joined this War because this is undeniably the biggest PvP event currently available in game. You can believe that the war is organised and fake, I personnally don’t think so, but in the end it doesn’t matter to me: This is where the content is, simple as that. And not only in terms of big CTA and TiDi fights. We still organise our small gang roams several times a week, and we just find so much more targets in the Imperium territory than anywhere else in the game at the moment, that to me anyone who believes he will find more fights elsewhere is doing nothing but fooling himself. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/test-vs-goons-this-war-is-a-joke/251894.md?page=10)