# Thank you CCP for raising prices! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 26, 2020, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp-for-raising-prices/244038 "2020-05-26T07:45:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![e1a\_shmela](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/e1a_shmela/32/288528_2.png) [@e1a\_shmela](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/e1a_shmela)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp-for-raising-prices/244038/111 "2020-05-26T16:34:15Z")
I agree that we vote with our money. but I would like to continue to pay for the game. but not ready to do it if the price rises. on this I express my (and not only my opinion) to raise prices. ---
**Author:** ![e1a\_shmela](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/e1a_shmela/32/288528_2.png) [@e1a\_shmela](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/e1a_shmela)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp-for-raising-prices/244038/112 "2020-05-26T16:35:45Z")
in your country, too, the price is lower than they pay in other countries, do not you tell me your opinion if you raise it? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp-for-raising-prices/244038/113 "2020-05-26T16:42:08Z")
Id be disappointed if it priced me out of playing a game yeah, but I cant say Id take it personally. I cant afford a lot of things, but I vote with my wallet, its all they understand. ---
**Author:** ![Sarmatiko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sarmatiko/32/269129_2.png) [@Sarmatiko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sarmatiko)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp-for-raising-prices/244038/114 "2020-05-26T16:43:52Z")
> [@Price change on steam monthly price for OMEGA](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-change-on-steam-monthly-price-for-omega/150776/17): > > Involved regions/currencies: Brazilian Real: 246,00 -\> 486,00 ~$125.40 Indonesian Rupiah: 1049360 -\> 1748394 ~$132.85 Malaysian Ringgit: 319.99 -\> 538.70 ~$131.70 Philippine Peso: 3700 -\> 6833 ~$131.36 Singapore Dollar: 107.00 -\> 178.70 ~$131.91 Thai Baht: 2759 -\> 4073 ~$127.69 Vietnamese Dong: 1791000 -\> 3022000 ~$130.30 South Korean Won: 88360 -\> 147270 ~$129.44 Turkish Lira: 185,00 -\> 689,85 ~$122.61 Ukrainian Hryvnia: 1800 -\> 3548 ~$131.20 Mexican Peso: 1320 -\> 2497 ~$130.92 … CCP drastically increased prices for many countries last year. Many of them were poorer than Russia then and are poorer now. So why do you feel _special_ about this? Also “pandemic” is not an excuse. Whole world has it rough right now and our prices were already bad (normalized) even before everything started. ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp-for-raising-prices/244038/115 "2020-05-26T16:44:40Z")
I never thought I’d see the day when so many of you turn in to Pearl Abyss apologists. ---
**Author:** ![0wii](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/0wii/32/208261_2.png) [@0wii](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/0wii)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp-for-raising-prices/244038/116 "2020-05-26T16:46:54Z")
> [@Maximilian\_Wulffe](#): > > But you said you don’t even play and that you could easily pay for it anyway so it doesn’t touch your wallet at all. Yes. I wanted back and planned to buy omega. And it’s not problem for me. But I think not only for myself but about other people too. And I will be feel myself not comfy if Russians will going from EVE. Despite the fact that I talked more with the Japanese in the game training my Japanese language than with the Russians. ---
**Author:** ![0wii](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/0wii/32/208261_2.png) [@0wii](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/0wii)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp-for-raising-prices/244038/117 "2020-05-26T16:58:19Z")
You decide for yourself whether it will be interesting for you to play without a strong Russian-speaking community? So, what I’m saying here is not only for the Russians. But it’s for the benefit of the whole EVE, as I think. The EVE only lost with such prices for Russia. It’s mistake of CCP. ---
**Author:** ![0wii](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/0wii/32/208261_2.png) [@0wii](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/0wii)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp-for-raising-prices/244038/118 "2020-05-26T17:00:36Z")
how many ally from Vietnam or from Singapore do you know? Or maybe from Indonesia? The fact that the Russians love hard games. Russians love space and hi-tech. ---
**Author:** ![Val\_MeR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/val_mer/32/195052_2.png) [@Val\_MeR](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Val_MeR)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp-for-raising-prices/244038/119 "2020-05-26T17:05:05Z")
CCP said they change the prices because many US players abuse it (put it in other words - pay with rubles using VPN). May be they should think WHY people from the “West” are trying to pay less for the game they “love” in the first place? Sure it is a free market everywhere now. Online games play by the same rules of supply and demand. If your price suddenly goes up (twice!) - you are faced with broader options on where to spend that money… and since most of the subscriptions for online games in Russian market cost on par or less (than what eve online will ask for since 1 of july), for many it will play a role in deciding wether to stay or to leave. Just think of it this way (to all who pay “fair” amount now), what would be your reaction if tomorrow you are told you will be paying $30 instead of $15 for the same product? Will you say “Yes, master Yoda! I would suggest you do it every month, until all who do not have faith in your wisdom - disappear!”… I have no doubt you will go kick Jita instead. ---
**Author:** ![Sarmatiko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sarmatiko/32/269129_2.png) [@Sarmatiko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sarmatiko)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp-for-raising-prices/244038/120 "2020-05-26T17:12:12Z")
So if you have certain share of playerbase you are entitled to get special treatment? This is how it works? Also don’t you think that there could be more alliances from Vietnam\Singapore\Brazil\you-name-it if they had special treatment 7$ per month sub price all this time since 2014, and not the usual 15$ they always had? Or localization in client? Or support in their native language? ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp-for-raising-prices/244038/121 "2020-05-26T17:18:36Z")
> [@Val\_MeR](#): > > May be they should think WHY people from the “West” are trying to pay less for the game they “love” in the first place? The “why” is not complicated at all: because it’s cheaper. People will do selfish things for short-term benefit even if it causes long-term damage to the thing they enjoy. You only have to look at the popularity of piracy to see that demonstrated. ---
**Author:** ![Val\_MeR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/val_mer/32/195052_2.png) [@Val\_MeR](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Val_MeR)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp-for-raising-prices/244038/122 "2020-05-26T17:18:44Z")
I would go that route and make it $7 for Vietnam\Singapore\Brazil\you-name-it (even for US and EU - users who had one account will just pay for another or spend more for plex - once you are in you will no doubt spend as much as you can “mentally” afford for an online game) to make a larger player base! Instead of making it so hardcore (and expensive for those countries) that they don’t even consider getting past the alpha account. However, its their product (CCP) and they decide how much to ask for it… ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp-for-raising-prices/244038/123 "2020-05-26T17:30:29Z")
> [@0wii](#): > > why does CCP change the price right now? In difficult times? Because this is a game, not water, food, clothing, shelter, or medicine. * * * It is not difficult to bypass geo-restrictions and purchase stuff in a different currency. Look what I posted recently: > [@How to Pay in £ (British Pound) instead of € (Euro)?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-pay-in-british-pound-instead-of-euro/238201/3): > > I did something similar the other day using a free virtual credit card service I frequently use. In my case, I am US-based and wanted to buy a digital product that could only be purchased using UK-registered payment options, so I created a virtual credit card with a fake UK billing address (this is explicitly stated as permissible by the virtual credit card service I used) and bypassed the restriction; my bank automatically converted from US Dollars to British Pounds as part of the transaction. You might be able to do something similar if you use a virtual credit card service. (Interestingly enough I could not associate the virtual credit card with PayPal because PayPal would only let me enter US billing info, so I had to pay directly - still worked!!!) If everybody used a virtual credit card service like I did (for a digital product from a different company) to purchase EVE subs through the Russian portal at the previous rates, CCP would have lost half their income overnight. By raising prices, CCP ensures that they maintain their income whether or not players attempt to bypass geo-restrictions. If this were a tangible good then prices could be relative to the cost of living, but since this is a digital good it has to be relative to a minimum baseline price. It’s also worth noting that PLEX is a thing and it’s not hard to acquire via in-game means even from Alpha state, and that the game actually has an Alpha state is something to be grateful for, so there’s really nothing to complain about. EVE is a luxury; if you cannot afford the luxury then it is unfortunate but at least CCP’s reasons for raising prices were not out of greed - they were quite sensible. ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp-for-raising-prices/244038/124 "2020-05-26T17:37:24Z")
> [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](#): > > If everybody used a virtual credit card service like I did to purchase EVE subs through the Russian portal at the previous rates, CCP would have lost half their income overnight. Everybody didn’t do that. But what you did was just announce the fact that CCP should look closely into banning you and all your accts. ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp-for-raising-prices/244038/125 "2020-05-26T17:38:15Z")
> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#): > > But what you did was just announce the fact that CCP should look closely into banning you and all your accts. I never used a VCC to sub to EVE - I used a VCC to bypass georestrictions for a digital product from a different company. All my EVE subs have been in USD. Also, even if I did sub to EVE in a different currency via VCC (which I didn’t), it’s not illegal 🙃 ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp-for-raising-prices/244038/126 "2020-05-26T17:41:32Z")
> [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](#): > > All my EVE subs have been in USD. Also, even if I did (which I didn’t), it’s not illegal Of course you did. And legal as defined by some rando in a forum does not trump the games TOS. ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp-for-raising-prices/244038/127 "2020-05-26T17:42:41Z")
Kindly pull up the respective paragraph from the TOS or any other policy 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp-for-raising-prices/244038/128 "2020-05-26T17:43:42Z")
Better yet. I’ll just wait until you suddenly aren’t in the game anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Lee\_Apollo\_Adama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lee_apollo_adama/32/272819_2.png) [@Lee\_Apollo\_Adama](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lee_Apollo_Adama)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp-for-raising-prices/244038/131 "2020-05-26T18:41:19Z")
Sorry @Ramona_McCandless im from switzerland 🇨🇭 (European) and in this case, im with the Russians 🇷🇺. BTW: Europeans pay for 1-month-plan € 14.95 = 16.43 $ So, you can say, we pay the highest Prices of all Eve-Players 🥴 Yes, Eve is a Game from CCP and they can raise and lower Prices if the want. BUT: To do this in a PANDEMIC, from a human perspective, it’s just wrong 🤬! And be fair, to wait with this for 2-3 months, it wouldn’t ruin cpp. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp-for-raising-prices/244038/132 "2020-05-26T19:03:34Z")
I dont think any people are to blame beside CCP corporation pricing policy makers. Their greedy practices make them **not** gain a lot of money already. Now that amount will be even bigger. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp-for-raising-prices/244038.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp-for-raising-prices/244038.md?page=7)