# Thank you CCP! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 5, 2022, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082 "2022-11-05T07:12:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Vespasiana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vespasiana/32/340506_2.png) [@Vespasiana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vespasiana)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/46 "2022-11-06T07:13:26Z")
> [@Donald\_J\_Spock](#): > > Yes intended for safe PVE and mining as the name implies. You read a bit much into it, methinks. ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/47 "2022-11-06T11:06:08Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > Am I lazy because I don’t want to pay additional 80$ each month? WAHAHAHAHA ARE YOU just admiting to multi boxing alpha accounts to gank omf dude you better detele that before you get banned. You are super in the wrong this was never meant to be a thing CCP did us all a favour by removing your way of playing. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/48 "2022-11-06T12:38:33Z")
😂 How stupid are you? ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/49 "2022-11-06T15:15:41Z")
High Sec. was always intended to be safe for mining, hauling, trading and manufacturing. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/50 "2022-11-06T15:59:16Z")
^^ This is called gaslighting. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/51 "2022-11-06T16:07:05Z")
Actually it isn’t “_gaslighting_” and my history shows that if or when a Miner plays by the rules of Highsec then it is just as safe as you need it to be. I have screenshots! ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/52 "2022-11-06T16:11:30Z")
There is no such thing as gaslighting, Frostpacker. I don’t know what you are talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/53 "2022-11-06T18:15:10Z")
In your case wouldn’t it be “icelighting”? 🤔 😏 ❄ ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/54 "2022-11-06T18:38:53Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > So what do you expect will happen now? > > Here is what I think will happen. Gankers take down their citadels and will just go back to sitting in stations and only undock for the kill. And then you will be back to the forums crying for more nerfs in your favor ![TRUTH-e1582702269886](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/0/2/40286bfbd349785ff3783bbef31e151978632eb1.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/55 "2022-11-06T18:40:46Z")
> [@x123xxx](#): > > High Sec. was always intended to be safe for mining, hauling, trading and manufacturing. I wonder who this alt belongs too, because it’s roleplayed as a total morong for shits and giggles, I just can’t cope with the amount of lying even tough this alt is a rp alt If hs is a safe place then I want wars to be turned off and any actions that triggers the suspect timer In Highsec only duels should allowed and by default clients should come with the duel option turned off as default, so people can’t be baited into accepting a duel before turnning it on and watching a tutorial video about it Mutual wars should be allowed because it has mutual consent ---
**Author:** ![Most\_Moliko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/most_moliko/32/378698_2.png) [@Most\_Moliko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Most_Moliko)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/56 "2022-11-06T18:54:28Z")
I am joining on the laughing at Safety. So much for how much they think CCP loves them. ---
**Author:** ![Most\_Moliko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/most_moliko/32/378698_2.png) [@Most\_Moliko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Most_Moliko)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/57 "2022-11-06T18:58:57Z")
I love that every change we asked for was given. And the important part is if you want to gank. YOU HAVE TO PAY. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/58 "2022-11-06T19:00:49Z")
I am happy for you. Now get back to your mindless isk grinding. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/59 "2022-11-06T19:02:35Z")
> [@Most\_Moliko](#): > > YOU HAVE TO PAY. The fulltime gankers already do. This isn’t going to change much and the only certainty is that the cries for more nerfs will continue to flow. ---
**Author:** ![Most\_Moliko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/most_moliko/32/378698_2.png) [@Most\_Moliko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Most_Moliko)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/60 "2022-11-06T19:03:45Z")
Well it makes it hard to do lots of things, even structure bashing becomes harder. By the way when are these changes happening? ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/61 "2022-11-06T19:11:08Z")
> [@Most\_Moliko](#): > > Well it makes it hard to do lots of things, even structure bashing becomes harder. How is structure bashing harder? The wardec mechanics have nothing to do with these changes. ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/62 "2022-11-06T19:46:43Z")
> [@Most\_Moliko](#): > > Well it makes it hard to do lots of things, even structure bashing becomes harder Umm what? ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/63 "2022-11-06T19:51:52Z")
I love how the crybears are now so happy and thanking CCP with tears of joy. Wait for when the patch hits EVE and… **nothing really changes** , ganking will still be there and maybe even more prominent than ever. I also see the NEPF- numbers or rather activity heavily increased after these changes were announced. Sadly it had no impact on their efficiency of catching/killing criminals and this won’t change after the changes either. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/64 "2022-11-06T20:15:44Z")
Does no one find it curious Alpha Ganking with a single ship is now banned but multiboxing alphas for any other purpose is still perfectly possible? Didnt think so. ---
**Author:** ![Most\_Moliko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/most_moliko/32/378698_2.png) [@Most\_Moliko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Most_Moliko)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/65 "2022-11-06T20:32:01Z")
they wont be able to bash with low security characters anymore. As anyone from any corp is free to attack without fear of concord. Edit: Also supporting logi wont be try to help. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082.md?page=4)