# Thank you CCP!

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [November 5, 2022, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082 "2022-11-05T07:12:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/66 "2022-11-06T20:50:09Z")

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Who do you think was possibly bashing with a low security character in hi sec? What are you even talking about? Faction police existed before this patch you know. Outlaws were still attackable by anyone before this patch. Do you have any idea what changes were even made here?

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**Author:** ![Most\_Moliko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/most_moliko/32/378698_2.png) [@Most\_Moliko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Most_Moliko)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/67 "2022-11-06T21:14:21Z")

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You must not talk to many career logi, they wont take the risk.

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**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2022, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/68 "2022-11-06T22:25:47Z")

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> [@Arya\_Yeshe](#):
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> Mutual wars should be allowed because it has mutual consent

> [@Most\_Moliko](#):
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> I am joining on the laughing at Safety.

> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#):
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> The fulltime gankers already do.

Nope! 12m ISK Ship isn’t paying much.

> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#):
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> efficiency of catching/killing criminals

Good one. Tether much?

Did @Aiko_Danuja rage quit?

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**Author:** ![LowKey\_Chandler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lowkey_chandler/32/441798_2.png) [@LowKey\_Chandler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LowKey_Chandler)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/69 "2022-11-07T00:08:53Z")

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> [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](#):
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> AG groups couldn’t work up the numbers or ability to war dec a group in hi se

If the corp doesn’t own a structure they can’t war dec anymore. Unless that got fixed when I wasn’t watching.

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**Author:** ![Sevlec\_Saaad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sevlec_saaad/32/377989_2.png) [@Sevlec\_Saaad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sevlec_Saaad)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 12:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/70 "2022-11-07T00:56:21Z")

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Anything that reduces destruction in the game could have an adverse effect on the game economy, which relies on destruction for its health. So I’m open-minded about the changes but aware that nerfs/buffs nearly always have unforseen consequences.

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**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/71 "2022-11-07T01:07:12Z")

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> [@LowKey\_Chandler](#):
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> If the corp doesn’t own a structure they can’t war dec anymore. Unless that got fixed when I wasn’t watching.

Yeah, correct. AG would be expected to organize and put the same assets on the field as the ganking corps. That’s how it works

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 1:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/72 "2022-11-07T01:18:21Z")

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Guys, the economy doesn’t HAVE to be based on destruction. It could instead be based on player churn and credit card warriors.

When a player leaves the game, their assets are effectively destroyed.

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**Author:** ![Most\_Moliko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/most_moliko/32/378698_2.png) [@Most\_Moliko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Most_Moliko)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 2:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/73 "2022-11-07T02:02:38Z")

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Yes the Final Fantasy XI way of handling things.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/74 "2022-11-07T02:05:58Z")

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> [@Most\_Moliko](#):
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> And the important part is if you want to gank. YOU HAVE TO PAY.

Nah…the important part is I have billions. 50m ISK for a clone soldier tag is loose change.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 2:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/75 "2022-11-07T02:11:52Z")

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We need gear seasons and battle passes.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 2:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/76 "2022-11-07T02:14:21Z")

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You won’t have to wait long, methinks.

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**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 3:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/77 "2022-11-07T03:32:50Z")

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> [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](#):
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> AG would be expected to organize

Except gankers pay blackflag 🏴‍☠️ to fight for them.

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**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 3:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/78 "2022-11-07T03:34:33Z")

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Yeah good point. In no way could another group simply pay the mercenary group.

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**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 4:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/79 "2022-11-07T04:30:12Z")

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I’m surprised CCP hasn’t been fined by the Environment Agency of Iceland with all the toxicity these forums produce.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 4:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/80 "2022-11-07T04:36:34Z")

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Thank you CCP for making things the way they currently are with the Orca, the other day a good 20 minutes before server restart where I feel that I was saved due to the Industrial Core that boosted the strength to my Gecko which took out all of those nasty player medium valkyrie drones quicker than they could be recalled that they were almost being one shotted in that 1v1.

The ability to even save that exact same Gecko that had been with my Orca since triglavian conduit encouter when they ganged up on me and this is the same Orca where I taunted those Pirates living in Uedama.

For the most part I just want to say thank you CCP for New Eden changes over the past and for my wonderful Orca.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 4:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/81 "2022-11-07T04:47:31Z")

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> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> For the most part I just want to say thank you CCP for New Eden changes over the past and for my wonderful Orca.

Well, the sheer irony is that the only way to stop an Orca being endlessly bumped by some passing Stabber is for gankers to be called in to do the job. If ganking is made harder, then bumping is made easier. Many of those being gleeful about ganking nerfs may regret that when they see a rise in people just bumping instead.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 5:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/82 "2022-11-07T05:56:44Z")

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Or just initiate warp and in 3 minutes you’ll be magically teleported to your destination.

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/83 "2022-11-07T06:27:24Z")

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> [@x123xxx](#):
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> Nope! 12m ISK Ship isn’t paying much.

Which has nothing to do with the point I responded to.

Fulltime gankers are already Omega, so the claim that if you want to gank you have to pay doesn’t mean much. They already pay.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/84 "2022-11-07T08:16:24Z")

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Well, I am happy with past changes but not what is coming on the tether & the alpha status safety lock.

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**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thank-you-ccp/383082/85 "2022-11-07T13:28:29Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> Orca being endlessly bumped

If by “endless” you mean 3 minutes, then yes.

> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> what is coming on the tether

Effective date?

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