# Thanks for the Grand Prix event....not **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 11, 2021, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thanks-for-the-grand-prix-event-not/299845 "2021-03-11T15:12:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Argel\_OTF2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/argel_otf2/32/388676_2.png) [@Argel\_OTF2](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Argel_OTF2)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thanks-for-the-grand-prix-event-not/299845/82 "2021-03-13T12:52:32Z")
Well there is. As I mentioned, it’s just a random loot box game where sometimes they make hundreds of millions each from one ship. They sit on gates and gank anything and everything, there’s no cherry picking, they get plenty of loot that way, it’s disingenuous to suggest otherwise. If there was an equal financial incentive to attack pirates, why would that be a problem for anyone who seriously has the game’s interests at heart rather than just protecting the right to gank as some sacred cow? The same people arguing against it are likely the same people who’ve said at points over the last 20 years that there is nothing stopping a player-led militia from stopping this happening. It’s never going to happen unless there’s a financial reason to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thanks-for-the-grand-prix-event-not/299845/83 "2021-03-13T12:55:41Z")
> [@Argel\_OTF2](#): > > If there was an equal financial incentive to attack pirates, why would that be a problem for anyone who seriously has the game’s interests at heart rather than just protecting the right to gank as some sacred cow? Eh? Do you think they use at least semi decent gear? Given we are talking about the GP, would a ganker’s drops not be more than the drops from GP runners? Why would there need to be even more reward? ---
**Author:** ![Khlaa\_Sor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khlaa_sor/32/434528_2.png) [@Khlaa\_Sor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khlaa_Sor)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thanks-for-the-grand-prix-event-not/299845/84 "2021-03-13T14:06:49Z")
> [@Argel\_OTF2](#): > > In what concept of any universe are known pirates allowed to hang around the same place, day after day, committing crimes in front of law enforcement? In what world are they punished, but then largely able to avoid any longer term suspicion or consequences? It’s utterly illogical. In the context of this event, try to drive a nice car from Beijing to Beirut and on to Berlin via Tripoli and Madrid. Will every stretch of the route guarantee you a safe passage? And not doing it remains an option, no coercion ---
**Author:** ![Owen\_Levanth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/owen_levanth/32/379056_2.png) [@Owen\_Levanth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Owen_Levanth)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thanks-for-the-grand-prix-event-not/299845/85 "2021-03-13T14:57:43Z")
> [@Argel\_OTF2](#): > > Think about it. In what concept of any universe are known pirates allowed to hang around the same place, day after day, committing crimes in front of law enforcement? In what world are they punished, but then largely able to avoid any longer term suspicion or consequences? It’s utterly illogical. Ours? 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thanks-for-the-grand-prix-event-not/299845/86 "2021-03-13T16:14:53Z")
The part where if this is truly random - you are just as likely to be grouped WITH the gate campers… –Random thoughts from Gadget ---
**Author:** ![Tak\_Goden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tak_goden/32/260085_2.png) [@Tak\_Goden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tak_Goden)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thanks-for-the-grand-prix-event-not/299845/87 "2021-03-13T16:16:24Z")
meh, jump to a empty clone, do it in a corvette, “set home station” along the way. That’s how I and my buddies did it. Got killed 3-4 times (smartbombs) but just come back at them again and again. I thought the event was neat, I like the lore and “scenery” in Eve, some of these places I never knew about. As an explorer I thought it was interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Raven\_Oake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raven_oake/32/259607_2.png) [@Raven\_Oake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raven_Oake)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thanks-for-the-grand-prix-event-not/299845/88 "2021-03-13T18:33:03Z")
I just finished the whole thing in a Helios. (No deaths) I had to enter null for exactly one system. /shrug ---
**Author:** ![Grimm\_Reborn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grimm_reborn/32/383573_2.png) [@Grimm\_Reborn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grimm_Reborn)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thanks-for-the-grand-prix-event-not/299845/89 "2021-03-13T18:39:32Z")
> [@Argel\_OTF2](#): > > Think about it. In what concept of any universe are known pirates allowed to hang around the same place, day after day, committing crimes in front of law enforcement? In what world are they punished, but then largely able to avoid any longer term suspicion or consequences? It’s utterly illogical. Have you heard of modern day Somolia? ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thanks-for-the-grand-prix-event-not/299845/90 "2021-03-13T21:16:33Z")
> [@Dray\_Cil](#): > > I know I was stupid to fly into low-sec with a full implant set but the only thing this “event” provided was a ganker’s paradise. I will learn and adapt. The nature of Eve. You are wrong, sir. - Low-sec is a relatively safe space “for implants”; - It’s not “gankers paradise”. They are gate campers or to be more accurate - gate smartbomb campers. - You can learn, but you can’t adapt to everything in EVE. - It’s not the nature of EVE. Actually what can happen if you’ll drive a car drunken, completely smashed? - If you know what you are doing, it’s easy to avoid them. Of course, until they’ll set up like some crazy formations all around the gate. As was expected with the Interceptors Expert System. Just imagine what can happen with the Titan Expert System. I repeat: “Expert System”. ![images](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/7/8/078beea875d42f241c986b5f767b5f32147dd711.jpeg) PS. I know, I’m very annoying and arrogant in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Dan\_4-2-01](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dan_4-2-01/32/258310_2.png) [@Dan\_4-2-01](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dan_4-2-01)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thanks-for-the-grand-prix-event-not/299845/91 "2021-03-20T05:59:49Z")
it cant be that bad! i did finish the race 2 times now and made it through several gate camps with ease (1month player here) later i got blown up by some people but it was because MY OWN FAULT! and the good thing is, i did learn from it! u cant buy or mine that experience haha ---
**Author:** ![Renly\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/renly_rohan/32/402846_2.png) [@Renly\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Renly_Rohan)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 4:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thanks-for-the-grand-prix-event-not/299845/95 "2021-03-22T04:33:04Z")
Its took about one minute of reading the description of the event to conclude it was Phantom Menace pod racing with extra Sand People. Hard pass. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/9/1/191dea7f98ecbf8d2626eb31b515760f158ee9df.gif) ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/a/8/7a800a244e0586729a8fbabd44894f4122f7f6b1.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thanks-for-the-grand-prix-event-not/299845/96 "2021-03-22T08:49:21Z")
> [@Renly\_Rohan](#): > > to conclude it was Phantom Menace pod racing with extra Sand People. That’s what made the race _interesting_. Anyone can jump around in high sec, but the Sand People meant you had to actually pay attention. I messed up once (but finished the race) and had a lot of fun! ---
**Author:** ![Renly\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/renly_rohan/32/402846_2.png) [@Renly\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Renly_Rohan)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thanks-for-the-grand-prix-event-not/299845/97 "2021-03-22T11:59:02Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > the Sand People meant you had to actually pay attention. If you jump into low sec with campers waiting for victims, I cannot figure how attention is going to save you at that point. Pretty much you are either fit and have a plan to use that fit and you execute it right or you die. About the only other thing I can think of is wait for some other sucker to decloak and become the new target, and you warp off after hoping not to get noticed. What am I missing? ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thanks-for-the-grand-prix-event-not/299845/98 "2021-03-22T12:19:00Z")
> [@Renly\_Rohan](#): > > If you jump into low sec with campers waiting for victims, I cannot figure how attention is going to save you at that point. Pretty much you are either fit and have a plan to use that fit and you execute it right or you die. You can take some precautions, but there are many ways to avoid the campers if you pay attention. 1. Fit a ship with an align time below 2s, to don’t get caught by instalockers. I’ve avoided one camp like this. 2. Put some tank on your ship, to survive a small smartbomb camp. I’ve avoided one camp like this. 3. Put warp core stabilizers on your ship, to survive getting caught by warp disruptors. I’ve avoided one camp like this. 4. Warp to 100 or 70, not to 0 at the beacons. I’ve avoided _many_ camps like this. 5. Warp from unexpected angles by warping to a out-of-line sun or moon first, so you don’t arrive at the same 100 or 70 in a crowded system as many others. I’ve avoided a couple camps like this. 6. Warp from a nearby sun or star that isn’t inline with the common warp route to a gate, to avoid smartbomb camps in a system with flashies in local. I’ve avoided some camps like this but got lazy once when I was showing a part of the Grand Prix to my girlfriend and warped straight to gate: [Ares | Gerard Amatin | Killmail | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/kill/91384203/) I then had to explain smartbombs. Pay attention guys. ---
**Author:** ![Renly\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/renly_rohan/32/402846_2.png) [@Renly\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Renly_Rohan)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thanks-for-the-grand-prix-event-not/299845/99 "2021-03-22T12:24:02Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > You can take some precautions, but there are many ways to avoid the campers if you pay attention. I think you may need to brush up on the definition of “pay attention”. Its not the same as “prepare your fit in advance” as I was indicating. Its also not the same as “have a plan and use it”. “Pay attention” would indicate you get information on the spot and utilize it on the spot. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thanks-for-the-grand-prix-event-not/299845/100 "2021-03-22T12:24:39Z")
> [@Renly\_Rohan](#): > > “Pay attention” would indicate you get information on the spot and utilize it on the spot. In my case, I should have paid attention to the flashies in local and took action that I didn’t warp from gate to gate. I didn’t pay attention and paid for it. ---
**Author:** ![hellokittyonline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hellokittyonline/32/244672_2.png) [@hellokittyonline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hellokittyonline)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thanks-for-the-grand-prix-event-not/299845/101 "2021-03-22T14:40:40Z")
> [@Dray\_Cil](#): > > I’m just saying there’s a difference between PVP and ganking No there isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thanks-for-the-grand-prix-event-not/299845/102 "2021-03-22T15:22:10Z")
> [@hellokittyonline](#): > > > [@Dray\_Cil](#): > > > > I’m just saying there’s a difference between PVP and ganking > > No there isn’t. There is a difference! One of them is a sub-group of the other. All ganking is pvp, but not all pvp is ganking. Some PvP for example is the act of avoiding ganks, outsmarting the gankers. If you can manage to keep your ship out of the claws of gankers and outplay them, you’re winning PvP on your terms. And that’s what I liked about this event, it allowed everyone to participate in this race and outsmart eachother. Some people were racing, others ganking the players racing, some players killing the gankers. Fun for all! ---
**Author:** ![Algathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/algathas/32/397229_2.png) [@Algathas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Algathas)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thanks-for-the-grand-prix-event-not/299845/103 "2021-03-22T18:21:13Z")
> [@Renly\_Rohan](#): > > Phantom Menace pod racing Lol when doing the grand prix event I thought about the pod racing sand people too! ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/thanks-for-the-grand-prix-event-not/299845/104 "2021-03-22T22:43:48Z")
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