# The 2023 ganking is good (or Ebil) megathread

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [January 4, 2023, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430 "2023-01-04T01:12:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2023, 3:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/390 "2023-02-16T03:28:05Z")

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> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> Could 500million actually be nothing to lose to some?

These are just baits for gankers, so the real loot piňata can squeeze in and get through the pipe unharmed.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2023, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/391 "2023-02-16T13:58:11Z")

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> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#):
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> These are just baits for gankers, so the real loot piňata can squeeze in and get through the pipe unharmed.

Zkill is full of Fenrir kills where the ship is worth way more than all the cargo. In fact I’d say that’s 2/3 or more of all Fenrir kills. In some cases I see people using a 2.4bn ISK ship to carry 70m ISK worth of cargo.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2023, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/392 "2023-02-16T19:50:57Z")

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> Zkill is full of Fenrir kills where the ship is worth way more than all the cargo.

This is only due to gankers can’t do math.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2023, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/393 "2023-02-16T19:54:46Z")

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I killed a Fenrir once:

> **[Fenrir | Duroichi | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/99940526/)**
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> Duroichi (Mechanical Advantage) lost their Fenrir in Mehatoor (Devoid) Total Value: 3,430,247,619.02 ISK

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2023, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/394 "2023-02-16T22:37:30Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> I killed a Fenrir once:

Yes…its definitely worth losing a 3.5bn ship over 1m ISK of cargo 🙂

Actually, now I look again there wasn’t any cargo, just 1m worth of cargo expanders.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/395 "2023-02-17T03:23:03Z")

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[R I O T vs Mechanical Advantage]  
Actually a very good catch. +1

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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 5:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/396 "2023-02-17T05:21:47Z")

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That’s griefing and CCP should ban them all long time ago.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/397 "2023-02-17T19:48:12Z")

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Surprised you didn’t die of boredom, must have been banging away for a good 15 minutes.

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**Author:** ![Nienna\_Nannie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nienna_nannie/32/373656_2.png) [@Nienna\_Nannie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nienna_Nannie)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 5:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/398 "2023-02-18T05:19:49Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> I dunno about that, but I must say I really don’t like taking part in any combat where I don’t _really_ have a say in the total outcome. If the outcome of some NPC empire war has already been decided independently of what the players actually do…I fail to see the point of taking part

That’s a good point you made. That’s another reason why PvE should be scrapped from EVE Online.

> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> Someone persuade me that players do actually influence the outcome

They don’t, not in PvE. That’s why PvP is much more rewarding.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/399 "2023-02-18T05:58:42Z")

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They should remove PvE from the game.

Instead, you should buy plex and spend it on roulette.

Winners get to play, losers go home.

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**Author:** ![Nienna\_Nannie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nienna_nannie/32/373656_2.png) [@Nienna\_Nannie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nienna_Nannie)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 6:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/400 "2023-02-18T06:06:55Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> They should remove PvE from the game

They won’t. PvE is the kitchen in EVE’s restaurant… and Hilmar does the dishes 🤣

> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> Instead, you should buy plex and spend it on roulette.

You go buy PLEX if you want to. I don’t need to be rich in a game that gives free ships and modules.  
And do you mean Russian Roulette or the game of chance?

> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> Winners get to play, losers go home…

…and F the prom queen.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 6:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/401 "2023-02-18T06:07:53Z")

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> [@Nienna\_Nannie](#):
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> F the prom queen.

You gotta at least buy me a coffee first.

🙄

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**Author:** ![Nienna\_Nannie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nienna_nannie/32/373656_2.png) [@Nienna\_Nannie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nienna_Nannie)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/402 "2023-02-18T06:09:09Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> You gotta at least buy me a coffee first

Not first. I buy the breakfast after the fact… _if_ it was good.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/403 "2023-02-18T06:11:44Z")

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🥞 👸 🧇  
🥓 🥚 🥓

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/404 "2023-02-18T07:47:44Z")

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> [@Nienna\_Nannie](#):
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> _if_ it was good

Oh it will be… she will gank you in your sleep.

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/3/e/53e7ca0bf0aa74bc3beda92278896992122b4152.gif)

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2023, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/405 "2023-02-19T08:31:39Z")

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I helped killed a freighter too

> **[Charon | Yekaterina Alexeevna | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/97108546/)**
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> Yekaterina Alexeevna (Oceanographic Institute) lost their Charon in Sivala (The Citadel). Final Blow by lipatoonon (Private Mocle) flying in a Talos. Total Value: 3,422,044,444.45 ISK

And didn’t lose anything doing it.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2023, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/406 "2023-02-19T08:34:17Z")

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It’s easier when there is no CONCORD.

🙄

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2023, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/407 "2023-02-19T08:36:10Z")

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True but its still fun to do

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2023, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/408 "2023-02-19T08:37:24Z")

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Ok, so come gank with us.

Prove you think it’s fun…

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2023, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/409 "2023-02-19T08:42:21Z")

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And you think i would trust you, you won’t even let me join why was i ganked.

My eve time is unfortunately limited due to real and im happy doing what i do but thxs for offer

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