# The 2023 ganking is good (or Ebil) megathread

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [January 4, 2023, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430 "2023-01-04T01:12:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Nasty\_Shrimp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nasty_shrimp/32/413217_2.png) [@Nasty\_Shrimp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nasty_Shrimp)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 4:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/512 "2024-03-04T04:09:45Z")

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yeah but you also do not have to enlist in a faction for faction warfare…

a really cool improvement would be, if it was mandatory to choose a side. like, minmatar can shoot every amarr in space and vice versa. if that was just a normal mechanic. you choose your side and can’t go to places of the other side without being hunted.

then there might be something that allows you to go there incognito… no idea, like a plastic surgery or something… there would be tons of possibilities for spies etc.

that would also mean, there should be neutral spaces, that do not belong to a faction. well that would be nullsec. and there are player driven factions that rule.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 4:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/513 "2024-03-04T04:12:55Z")

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This is where I feel that the CSM had failed its good citizens of Highesrc.

They are the voice that we all voted for to deal with pilots huffing inside NPC corps.

Take a moment to revisit the video regarding the Faction War reboot to understand that is our future with pvp

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/514 "2024-03-04T07:58:26Z")

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> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> what Highsec needs is something different like Faction Warfare

Can we have Hisec Faction Warfare against specific classes or types of ships… like mining vessels for example?

😏 😇 🍿

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/515 "2024-03-04T09:23:05Z")

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We both know that sounds awful Uriel.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/516 "2024-03-04T09:26:53Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/4/2/1422338d17f22ec9d6cf2f0e9358b0bcd14895bb.png)

😈 ❄ 😊

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/517 "2024-03-04T09:49:27Z")

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How about don’t stop Uriel! [quote=“Uriel the Flame, post:516, topic:390430, full:true, username:Uriel\_the\_Flame”]  
 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/4/2/1422338d17f22ec9d6cf2f0e9358b0bcd14895bb.png)

😈 ❄ 😊  
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**Author:** ![Yuzima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yuzima/32/416395_2.png) [@Yuzima](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yuzima)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/518 "2024-03-04T10:16:41Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> Ganking is, or is not, an important aspect to the game

It’s as important as any other aspect.

> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> Ganking is, or is not, an acceptable play style

It’s acceptable in that it provides a extra dimension to PvE and makes hisec a more exciting place to fly.

> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> Ganking is, or is not, a core game play mechanic?

Depends what you mean by “core gameplay”. That question is a bit too technical for me.

> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> So should pvp be removed from lowsec and only reserved for those signed up in the militias?

I think not.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/519 "2024-03-04T11:24:35Z")

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> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> We both know that sounds awful Uriel.

Don’t be silly, puppy.

It’s a great idea.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/520 "2024-03-04T11:34:41Z")

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Uriel seems to fixated on his own agenda that doesn’t include burning Highsec structures!

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/521 "2024-03-04T14:26:13Z")

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![IMG_6051](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/e/d/aed51a608cf50f1869bec7f0860a1f1b49f3daf1.jpeg)

You need some help there, buddy, with using the quote function?

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**Author:** ![Nasty\_Shrimp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nasty_shrimp/32/413217_2.png) [@Nasty\_Shrimp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nasty_Shrimp)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 12:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/522 "2024-03-05T00:09:06Z")

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what is this?

the thread fell asleep?

i really would like to get to the bottom of this.

why do some people dislike ganking ?

i need to understand this, so i can sleep at night again.

someone tell me

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 12:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/523 "2024-03-05T00:16:24Z")

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> [@Nasty\_Shrimp](#):
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> why do some people dislike ganking ?

They don’t - they secretly love it !!!  
 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/e/b/ceb6b165307e89a42cfb60b992012e154c646c7e.gif)

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**Author:** ![Nasty\_Shrimp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nasty_shrimp/32/413217_2.png) [@Nasty\_Shrimp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nasty_Shrimp)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 12:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/524 "2024-03-05T00:17:24Z")

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yes, that is exactly what i am thinking.

they admire the gankers but don’t know where to start, to become one themselves.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/525 "2024-03-05T01:40:30Z")

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This, right here.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/527 "2024-03-05T01:58:43Z")

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![IMG_6057](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/3/2/5329ae2c8cf1d87578de550371b7ecf8492f0956.jpeg)

@MB_ThePhotographer

Too spicy to keep up?

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 2:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/528 "2024-03-05T02:45:36Z")

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It was more a boring reply than boorish one that I just didn’t get the wording correct and it just didn’t fit the connotation I was trying to imply.

Frankly, Iceacid’s post kinda shook me. Bad news all around these days…

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 3:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/529 "2024-03-05T03:06:56Z")

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Oh dear.

I do hope things get better for you!

Sending good vibes your way, MB!

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/530 "2024-03-05T03:21:18Z")

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NP, crossing swords on the forum is the last true PVP! Long live the nutjobs who have such a passion for the game that we have been here so long! No matter what side of the 8 sided coin you are on.

Better for me is when the game fails so badly, that it falls in numbers like before I started and becomes a nitch game again who draws in the demographics that they _used_ to brag about.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 3:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/531 "2024-03-05T03:26:47Z")

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Seen some great names drop from the forums. Ive even tempted dropping off myself. Hadnt been able to play, but still do an admin asst role with usia. Finally got a new job.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 3:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/532 "2024-03-05T03:36:19Z")

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> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#):
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> Seen some great names drop from the forums.

Amen.

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