# The 2023 ganking is good (or Ebil) megathread

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [January 4, 2023, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430 "2023-01-04T01:12:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/554 "2024-03-07T18:33:50Z")

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> [@Calamity\_Unleashed](#):
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> That’s very gracious of you. All the toxicity and tears in one convenient thread.

You’re most welcome. Hilarious reads centralized in one nice location.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/555 "2024-03-07T18:34:50Z")

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> [@Calamity\_Unleashed](#):
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> No, no and no

Incorrect - try again

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**Author:** ![TheHound\_OfGreys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thehound_ofgreys/32/412487_2.png) [@TheHound\_OfGreys](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TheHound_OfGreys)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/556 "2024-03-07T18:38:18Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> Hilarious reads centralized in one nice location.

And a lot of them too

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**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/557 "2024-03-07T19:11:47Z")

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Instructions unclear. House now on fire.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/558 "2024-03-07T22:50:31Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> so when 90% of the player base complains about how they don’t want a certain thing and will stop playing and paying if it’s not removed, their creative and marketing executives listen

No…its 90% of the 50 alts of a handful of noisy malcontents. The whiners on this forum are really _not_ representative of the majority of Eve players. Most medium to large size corps that noobs join do ship SRP for mining barges…so all this whining about ’ I lost my ship…how will I ever survive ’ is dreadful over-dramatization of the actual reality of Eve.

We’ve all lost ships. Most of us don’t go into meltdown over it.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/559 "2024-03-07T23:02:13Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> No…its 90% of the 50 alts of a handful of noisy malcontents. The whiners on this forum are really _not_ representative of the majority of Eve players.

Well I already know this, so you need to convince those executives, and not me.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/560 "2024-03-18T22:53:50Z")

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> [@Should life be harder for gankers?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-life-be-harder-for-gankers/440832/325):
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> because ganking is a banable offense in every game on the market and one has to adapt to the 21st century gameplay…

Working with this, should ganking not only be a bannable offense, but also one that should land the ganker in real life jail?

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/561 "2024-03-18T23:07:33Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> but also one that should land the ganker in real life jail?

Actually, somebody claimed to be a real life criminal lawyer, and would have everyone tracked down and sent to jail for ganking his pimped out Navy Raven worth £3000. He spent another £3000 on an identical Navy raven, got scammed out of it by the goons, quit EVE then went back to WoW.

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/c/c/5cc177ccf94af6fbf016ca38224e9cd268b89842.gif)

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/562 "2024-03-18T23:16:16Z")

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Don’t stop there!

Details!

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**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/563 "2024-03-18T23:16:30Z")

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Please tell us that story.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/564 "2024-03-18T23:24:45Z")

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- WoW player buys a shed-load of plex and fits Navy Raven worth 44bn for hi-sec ratting. Unsurprisingly gets ganked. We know this already.
- The kill mail goes viral and suddenly everyone is inviting him to join their corp. Reverse AWOX anyone I assume?
- The [Mittani.com](http://Mittani.com) ‘interviews’ him.
- He admits he is hunting down the gankers in reallife and that he’s a lawyer and that he’s already replaced the Raven with the same again!
- Later a Goon ‘recruiter’ convo’s him, convinces him he’s helping and that the gankers are waiting for him to undock. He offers to help and tells him to give his new ship to them so they can “move it safely” for him (If you don’t know what’s coming next, I can move your 44bn Ravens too. Convo me in game)
- WoW player gives the Goon his brand-new replacement shiny officer-fit Raven Navy Issue which is worth tens of billions of ISK… but wait for it… here is the best bit…
- The WoW player also fills the cargo hold with nine plex and other juicy things to make it up to a cool 60bn before handing it over to the Goon to ‘move’ for him.  
So that is well over 100 billion ISK down in a single afternoon between the gank and the scam. That is a Titan…ic loss!

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/565 "2024-03-19T00:07:33Z")

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@Zaera_Keena found it: [ALOD: GO BACK TO WOW - INN](https://imperium.news/alod-go-back-wow/) (old website is down, old articles etc now collected on inn)

Perhaps not the best of “criminal lawyers” if he makes real life threats, lol.

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**Author:** ![Yuzima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yuzima/32/416395_2.png) [@Yuzima](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yuzima)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 1:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/566 "2024-03-19T01:41:42Z")

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> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> So that is well over 100 billion ISK down in a single afternoon between the gank and the scam

That story completes my day. Love reading stuff like that.  
Thanks, Zaera  
o7

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**Author:** ![TheHound\_OfGreys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thehound_ofgreys/32/412487_2.png) [@TheHound\_OfGreys](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TheHound_OfGreys)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 3:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/567 "2024-03-19T03:30:42Z")

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> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> That is a Titan…ic loss!

Highly unfortunate. However, the lesson we learned from this should be “Do not trust Goonswarm”. That was this guys first and last mistake (not to mention the abuse of his power of attorney over goddamn pixel ships).

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/568 "2024-03-19T09:39:29Z")

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> [@TheHound\_OfGreys](#):
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> Highly unfortunate. However, the lesson we learned from this should be “Do not trust Goonswarm”.

In this case it is “Do not trust your own judgement” 🤣

Anyway, that story is a decade old. They don’t write them like that anymore.

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**Author:** ![Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kanavaisto_askiras/32/387775_2.png) [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kanavaisto_Askiras)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/569 "2024-03-19T10:11:51Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> Working with this, should ganking not only be a bannable offense, but also one that should land the ganker in real life jail?

At least… 🙂

And at least someone who understands what this game really needs 😃

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/570 "2024-03-19T10:57:53Z")

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> [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#):
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> And at least someone who understands

@Ax_l_Thorne being one of the most vocal anti gankers in EVE

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/f/b/7fb00810987d76404cb5b3e3f179a85e8cb10f4b.gif)

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**Author:** ![Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kanavaisto_askiras/32/387775_2.png) [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kanavaisto_Askiras)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/571 "2024-03-19T17:40:33Z")

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Ironical remark…ever heard of or understood?

I guess not really… 🙂

The smiley should have made it clear…

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/572 "2024-03-19T17:48:50Z")

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Thank you for pointing out the obvious. It’s too bad that @Zaera_Keena doesn’t understand satire, and likewise doesn’t know how to compose it either…

😉

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/573 "2024-03-19T19:21:50Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> doesn’t understand satire

That is quite true. But no doubt, fang can learn about it from @Kanavaisto_Askiras.

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/f/b/7fb00810987d76404cb5b3e3f179a85e8cb10f4b.gif) ](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/f/b/7fb00810987d76404cb5b3e3f179a85e8cb10f4b.gif)

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