# The 2023 ganking is good (or Ebil) megathread

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [January 4, 2023, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430 "2023-01-04T01:12:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/61 "2023-01-05T17:14:49Z")

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> [@Dr\_Noknow](#):
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> What are you, Forum Police?

Well, it is my thread.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/62 "2023-01-05T18:14:11Z")

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This seemed to have worked well in the Triglavian Invasion so perhaps the next one might be the Concord Corruption?

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/63 "2023-01-05T18:22:14Z")

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The next step is just to add NPC smacktalk.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/64 "2023-01-05T18:24:32Z")

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New Eden would then need a type of Dungeon Dan.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Noknow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dr_noknow/32/348418_2.png) [@Dr\_Noknow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dr_Noknow)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/65 "2023-01-05T23:23:11Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> Well, it is my thread

Got news for you: no it’s not. This thread belongs to CCP who employ volunteers to moderate, ie: change, move or delete any post. Sorry to burst your bubble.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/66 "2023-01-06T00:06:37Z")

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Perhaps. But I do have some control over what content is presented to me.

Goodbye!

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/e/3/4e362894e87c813b9761c9c9c5ce5ae4a6d906c4.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Clone\_Nr007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clone_nr007/32/350156_2.png) [@Clone\_Nr007](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clone_Nr007)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/67 "2023-01-06T01:08:42Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> Goodbye!

🙄🤭🤣…

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Noknow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dr_noknow/32/348418_2.png) [@Dr\_Noknow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dr_Noknow)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 1:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/68 "2023-01-06T01:11:21Z")

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@Clone_Nr007 you’re right it’s funny. And he posts proof like I’m goint to be sad or something lol

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**Author:** ![Clone\_Nr007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clone_nr007/32/350156_2.png) [@Clone\_Nr007](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clone_Nr007)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/69 "2023-01-06T01:16:53Z")

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> [@Dr\_Noknow](#):
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> like I’m goint to be sad or something

But you’ll miss all his indispensable contributions to this forum. Serves you well you abominable miscreant.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Noknow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dr_noknow/32/348418_2.png) [@Dr\_Noknow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dr_Noknow)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 1:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/70 "2023-01-06T01:23:34Z")

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> [@Clone\_Nr007](#):
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> Serves you well you abominable miscreant.

I admit, I’m a pirate. I had it coming.

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**Author:** ![Clone\_Nr007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clone_nr007/32/350156_2.png) [@Clone\_Nr007](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clone_Nr007)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 1:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/71 "2023-01-06T01:33:21Z")

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> [@Dr\_Noknow](#):
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> I had it coming

So you admit to your abhorrent behavior. That’s a good step in the right direction I think.  
I’m not mad at you 🤣

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Noknow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dr_noknow/32/348418_2.png) [@Dr\_Noknow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dr_Noknow)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/72 "2023-01-06T01:47:57Z")

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> [@Clone\_Nr007](#):
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> So you admit to your abhorrent behavior.

I do. I have no excuse.

I am a worm.

> [@Clone\_Nr007](#):
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> I’m not mad at you

Not yet at least lol

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 2:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/73 "2023-01-06T02:47:06Z")

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Followed by six straight troll posts by the No Number twins.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 3:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/74 "2023-01-06T03:27:22Z")

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I have a pretty good idea who they belong to.

So I filed one of them away with the other [Redacted] alts.

🗑

Where they properly belong.

He’s just super salty at me and trying to extract his revenge by shutting my thread down.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 3:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/75 "2023-01-06T03:34:32Z")

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> [@Xeux](#):
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> The next step is just to add NPC smacktalk.

Maybe in two or three decades, when we are advanced enough to have passable androids, we could create whole artificial families for these people to doxx, rape, and murder.

Imagine you blow up someone’s video game spaceship (if that’s not outlawed by then), and they start railing and making real life threats at you, and demanding to know where you live. So you give them the address to the fake android family living in a staged house, and they fly over there and do their thing, while you’re completely safe half the world away.

We could probably save the airline industry with the traffic that would create!

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 3:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/76 "2023-01-06T03:38:06Z")

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And think about how much revenue the Android industry would rake in on all because of non-consensual pixilated spaceship destruction!

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/77 "2023-01-06T07:23:02Z")

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🧁 🫖 🥞

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**Author:** ![Clone\_Nr007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clone_nr007/32/350156_2.png) [@Clone\_Nr007](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clone_Nr007)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/78 "2023-01-06T11:30:39Z")

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> [@Dr\_Noknow](#):
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> Not yet at least lol

Nah, I’m not dangerous anyways. Plus you already agree that ganking is ebil so you’re good 😆

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**Author:** ![Clone\_Nr007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clone_nr007/32/350156_2.png) [@Clone\_Nr007](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clone_Nr007)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/79 "2023-01-07T21:36:56Z")

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And with all that BS I notice that I posted in the thread without mentioning what OP laid out. I was mostly off topic… I mean totally lol

I apologize.  
( I’m blaming @Dr_Noknow )

I want to be clear on this.

> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> Ganking is, or is not, an important aspect to the game

It is a very important component of EVE Online. Anyone who says that ganking has to go needs to have his head checked. It’s one of the most exciting part of the game, for both the ganker and the gankee.

> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> Ganking is, or is not, an acceptable play style

I don’t have a clear picture of what everybody calls a “playstyle”, that compound word seems weird to me but maybe because English isn’t my first language.  
As far as being acceptable to gank another player while keeping with the game rules I say… why the hell not?

> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> Ganking is, or is not, a core game play mechanic

I’m not an expert on gameplay mechanics. I don’t know EVE _that_ well at all. I just started the Soldier of Fortune agent ( lmfao! ) but then again, I’m taking my sweet time. I get sidetracked easily and this game has so much to look at, read on and understand that I don’t care if people make fun of me, I play at my pace.

> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> So should pvp be removed from lowsec and only reserved for those signed up in the militias?

If PvP is removed from _anywhere_ in the game I will quit… after posting a long rant on the forum that will be locked within 3 posts lol

> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> we’re starting to see an influx of low sec kills that are irritating people

Too bad. They shouldn’t fly what they can’t afford.

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/80 "2023-01-07T22:52:42Z")

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> [@Clone\_Nr007](#):
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> I don’t have a clear picture of what everybody calls a “playstyle”, that compound word seems weird to me but maybe because English isn’t my first language.

“Playstyle” is an abstract concept. Much like in the world of fashion – the sum of all your clothes in a wardrobe point to your personal style of fashion, even if indescribable – and all clothes basically carry out a core function: to not be exposed to the elements (sun, rain, etc). Every single human being could have the same preferences and aesthetic tastes that lead us all to dress ourselves in garbage bags held together by duct tape to achieve this. But we’re all different humans, from different backgrounds, and different approaches in life. So we approach clothing differently, some things do naturally become popular, hence fashion style.

“Play style” is no different. Eve has a common set of rules we all play the game by. We could all be duct-taped garbage-bag wearing humans and do the exact same things in the game as every other human being. But we’re all different and enjoy different aspects of Eve. Some people mine more than others. Some sit at gates for hours waiting for prey to jump through. Others track Supers for months before springing a trap. Same game, same rules, but each person’s personal preferences leads to a particular style of Eve Online play. Some game play approaches CCP tries to create mechanics and incentives to guide (or force) players to make a style popular; other styles players find appealing for their own reasons.

This was a long way of saying Ax’l’s comment:

> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> Ganking is, or is not, an acceptable play style.

Is more about “is it [socially, culturally] acceptable by the Eve Online playerbase for some of its members to mostly approach the game via ganking?” History says yes (or else ganking would have been removed from the rules from the get-go within the first 10 years) but – and what follows is my opinion – there are some persistent minority voices that wish to revise history and paint the picture as “no because the ganking of now is not the same ganking as of 10 years ago” (which is an elegantly deceptive equivocation).

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