# The 2023 ganking is good (or Ebil) megathread **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [January 4, 2023, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430 "2023-01-04T01:12:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Clone\_Nr007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clone_nr007/32/350156_2.png) [@Clone\_Nr007](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clone_Nr007)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/81 "2023-01-07T23:19:41Z")
> [@Io\_Koval](#): > > Much like in the world of fashion – the sum of all your clothes in a wardrobe point to your personal style of fashion, even if indescribable – and all clothes basically carry out a core function: to not be exposed to the elements (sun, rain, etc) I started out as an artist in the fashion industry. It’s funny you chose that ( analogy? ) > [@Io\_Koval](#): > > “Play style” is no different. Eve has a common set of rules we all play the game by. We could all be duct-taped garbage-bag wearing humans and do the exact same things in the game as every other human being. But we’re all different and enjoy different aspects of Eve. Some people mine more than others. Some sit at gates for hours waiting for prey to jump through. Others track Supers for months before springing a trap. Same game, same rules, but each person’s personal preferences leads to a particular style of Eve Online play Thank you for taking the time. I guess I don’t yet have a playstyle as I’m still learning everything but I am attracted by PvP and I often think about ganking situations in my head. I play EVE for the pew-pew, yes I’m simple like that, and so far killing NPCs satiates that thirst but I know it won’t be enough for long until I jump on some unwary victim and empty her of her bloo- ahem- sorry… ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2023, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/82 "2023-01-08T08:38:41Z")
No problem. As someone learning German, I also have many experiences struggling with compound words. Also, very funny about the fashion coincidence! If you ever go for pods and collect corpses, I am sure your collection would be dressed well. If CCP would ever let us show off our ice chests full of dead bodies. ---
**Author:** ![Clone\_Nr007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clone_nr007/32/350156_2.png) [@Clone\_Nr007](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clone_Nr007)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2023, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/83 "2023-01-08T09:00:02Z")
> [@Io\_Koval](#): > > If you ever go for pods and collect corpses, I am sure your collection would be dressed well Omg 🤣 That’s so morbid but I love it! > [@Io\_Koval](#): > > If CCP would ever let us show off our ice chests full of dead bodies If we still had captain’s quarters ( I’m mad that I never experienced that ) the bodies could be put on display in glass vats, a bit like the Collector does in the Guardians of the Galaxy film but in a big hangar, row after row like a meat packing plant 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/84 "2023-01-09T11:56:00Z")
There is a pilot in which a yellow jump space suit would look extremely stunning while being podded. ---
**Author:** ![Clone\_Nr007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clone_nr007/32/350156_2.png) [@Clone\_Nr007](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clone_Nr007)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/85 "2023-01-09T12:42:56Z")
I haven’t earned it yet. You’ll know when I do 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/86 "2023-01-09T12:51:00Z")
First up you would have to be leaning more towards goons than scummy horde and second you would have to show skill. Only then would you become under Frostpacker’s radar/ ---
**Author:** ![Clone\_Nr007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clone_nr007/32/350156_2.png) [@Clone\_Nr007](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clone_Nr007)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/87 "2023-01-09T13:16:02Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > First up you would have to be leaning more towards goons than scummy horde and second you would have to show skill _takes notepad out_ ( required reading ) Goons, Horde, real in-game skills. Got it 😆 > [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Only then would you become under Frostpacker’s radar/ I generally avoid to be on someone’s radar 😉 ---
**Author:** ![LowKey\_Chandler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lowkey_chandler/32/441798_2.png) [@LowKey\_Chandler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LowKey_Chandler)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2023, 3:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/88 "2023-01-14T03:17:06Z")
Ganking is the in game mechanic for training on dscan. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2023, 5:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/89 "2023-01-14T05:11:14Z")
I would agree. Ganking is a good tool for teaching. Removing ganking removed the incentive to learn basic mechanics like d-scanning and paying attention to local. ---
**Author:** ![Clone\_Nr007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clone_nr007/32/350156_2.png) [@Clone\_Nr007](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clone_Nr007)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2023, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/90 "2023-01-14T08:57:31Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > Removing ganking removed the incentive to learn basic mechanics like d-scanning and paying attention to local. I agree. Without ganking space wouldn’t be interesting. PvP is a major part of what makes this game unique and ganking is the cherry on the cake, and I say this knowing full well that I’ll lose quite a few ships before I get the hang of it. So what. D-scan is still on my study, I have no comments on that. I have local minimized right bottom center of the screen, I can’t but see it. I wonder what technology would permit a pilot to know exactly who is in a solar system when his ship/capsule can’t detect a ship more than 1 AU. Does d-scan give the amount of info we see in Local? ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2023, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/91 "2023-01-14T14:32:57Z")
> [@Clone\_Nr007](#): > > I have local minimized right bottom center of the screen, I can’t but see it. I wonder what technology would permit a pilot to know exactly who is in a solar system Funny you should mention that. There is an overlay program called EvE’s _Pirate’s Little Helper._ What it does is that you click on it, and press ctrl-c and it searches everyone on the local list. It then lists them and links any that are in the same corp and alliance. It also will list their kill to loss ratio and implement an icon for quick identification. A little bear for a carebear, a gun for a ganker, a cross hair for e-war/logi pilots. It lists their most used ship and their last ship win and loss (what ship they were in) It searches their zkillboard and if you click on the name it opens their zkillboard. It is an amazing tool. Coupled with your d-scanner you can logically deduce who is in what ship. ---
**Author:** ![Clone\_Nr007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clone_nr007/32/350156_2.png) [@Clone\_Nr007](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clone_Nr007)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2023, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/92 "2023-01-14T15:11:25Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > It is an amazing tool. > Coupled with your d-scanner you can logically deduce who is in what ship. Thank you! I must check that out. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2023, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/93 "2023-01-14T15:37:55Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > IM A LITTLE CUPCAKE _SHORT AND STOUT_ A recent photo I captured while spying on Safety in a station in Isanamo… ![Cup kitten](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/1/5/d15ea7bbc8d733dac8f6a6b3d801f59cf53fb72f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2023, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/94 "2023-01-14T17:44:48Z")
I think you have mistaken a cat for a cupcake. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2023, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/95 "2023-01-14T19:16:07Z")
Its a cup cat. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2023, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/96 "2023-01-14T20:03:32Z")
_ **Pea and Ham Soup** _ should be a ganking meta fit. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2023, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/97 "2023-01-14T21:54:59Z")
CupCat ™ looks very upset. Most likely got ganked and the antigankers and forum meta-trolls failed to keep them safe. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/98 "2023-01-18T11:34:46Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > So should pvp be removed from lowsec and only reserved for those signed up in the militias? Don’t be daft ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/99 "2023-01-18T13:03:13Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > Don’t be daft There are more and more FW crybears calling to remove pvp from low sec and limit it to only faction warfare. I think that’s daft. PvP is a core value of the game and should remain. From high sec war deccing (the old mechanic) to low sec piracy to mixing up null and forcing the complacent krabbers to fight to hold their territory. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/100 "2023-01-18T13:05:18Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > > > So should pvp be removed from lowsec and only reserved for those signed up in the militias? > > Don’t be daft No, I think he’s making a great point, and I agree with him. We should usher EVE into its third decade with a new set of modern aggression rules in line with the norms that contemporary gamers expect from their digital entertainment: - High-sec – PvP disabled completely - Low-sec – PvP flag needs to be turned on before that player or their assets can be engaged without CONCORD interference – FW members can freely engage each other inside complexes only - Null-sec – PvP flag needs to be turned on before that player or their assets can be engaged without CONCORD interference – PvP flag needs to be turned on before anyone can engage in sovereign warfare (e.g. taking/defending structures required for sovereignty) - Wormholes/Pochven – All players can freely engage each other anywhere except on wormholes entrances to k-space, which are protected by CONCORD – Asset safety functions implemented for structures [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430.md?page=6)