# The audacity of some pilots **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [February 20, 2020, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-audacity-of-some-pilots/221047 "2020-02-20T22:58:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-audacity-of-some-pilots/221047/1 "2020-02-20T22:58:36Z")
Today while sitting idle inside my ship while undocked I happened to read chat that about some newer pilot was blown up while mining in their venture. I thought it might be helpful to comment that they require a mining permit as this newer pilot mentioned that they had only just started and been blown up a few times and then asking what fittings do you place on a venture. Well I linked my Convicted Mining Offender permit and said you need one of these. I also linked an Alpha Venture build that has been tested for level 3 missions to try and help the new pilot. Then some other blatant pilot barked out about how he had played since 2004 and had not met someone that stupid yet. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-audacity-of-some-pilots/221047/2 "2020-02-20T23:59:25Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Then some other blatant pilot barked out about how he had played since 2004 and had not met someone that stupid yet. Thats harsh. The player is new, he doesnt know any better. For a 2004 player to call a new player stupid, is terrible. You shouldve told him, “Dude, hes new, dont call him stupid”. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-audacity-of-some-pilots/221047/3 "2020-02-21T00:03:18Z")
I think that 2004 player was referring to me as stupid cause of the mining permit reply. I guess that some pilots show willingness to take bold risks. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 12:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-audacity-of-some-pilots/221047/4 "2020-02-21T00:16:04Z")
Haven’t seen you in a while frostpacker. Keeping busy i hope. ---
**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-audacity-of-some-pilots/221047/5 "2020-02-21T00:24:33Z")
It’s not a risk. It’s a guarantee that an agent of the new order will meet them in the field of battle if they don’t have a permit ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-audacity-of-some-pilots/221047/6 "2020-02-21T00:26:01Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > I think that 2004 player was referring to me as stupid cause of the mining permit reply. Nah, i dont think so. I think he was referring to the new player as stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-audacity-of-some-pilots/221047/7 "2020-02-21T01:13:55Z")
It’s a common miner scam. They try to trick new players into thinking they don’t need permits, and then they eventually convince the noob to haul something through Uedama or Niarja, and they sit back and laugh when the poor guy gets caught by the police. ---
**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-audacity-of-some-pilots/221047/8 "2020-02-21T07:52:29Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > and they sit back and laugh when the poor guy gets caught by the police. Even don’t try to scoop the loot for themselves? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-audacity-of-some-pilots/221047/9 "2020-02-21T16:19:44Z")
Nice to see you again Frosty o/ ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 5:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-audacity-of-some-pilots/221047/10 "2020-02-22T05:33:45Z")
I think the season of the new year is telling me it is time to undock. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 1:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-audacity-of-some-pilots/221047/26 "2020-02-26T01:52:26Z")
Removed some off topic posts. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 2:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-audacity-of-some-pilots/221047/27 "2020-02-26T02:04:47Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > Because highsec players pay the same sub and buy the same plex as nullsec players. We are equal Equality of opportunity, not equality of outcomes. You are not entitled to buffs to AFK farming just because you choose to play with a self-imposed restriction that you will not participate in the more profitable content. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-audacity-of-some-pilots/221047/28 "2020-02-27T16:26:08Z")
I want to gank rorquals without even logging in. That’s my playstyle, you can’t take it away from me. Also, I need to be buffed. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-audacity-of-some-pilots/221047/29 "2020-02-27T18:26:33Z")
I bet you look great buffed x ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-audacity-of-some-pilots/221047/30 "2020-02-27T22:37:27Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Equality of opportunity, not equality of outcomes. You are not entitled to buffs to AFK farming just because you choose to play with a self-imposed restriction that you will not participate in the more profitable content. Nope highsec is equal to the rest of the game ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-audacity-of-some-pilots/221047/31 "2020-02-27T22:39:36Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > Nope highsec is equal to the rest of the game That’s not how it works. Risk vs. reward is a fundamental design principle of EVE. If you want the lower risk of highsec you get the lower reward as well. Or you can choose to take on greater risks to potentially earn greater rewards. There is nothing forcing you to play with the self-imposed limitation of not leaving highsec. Alternatively, you can have total equality of income in highsec at the cost of all of the advantages highsec has over other regions. After all, equality matters, right? ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-audacity-of-some-pilots/221047/32 "2020-02-27T23:23:20Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > That’s not how it works. Risk vs. reward is a fundamental design principle of EVE. If you want the lower risk of highsec you get the lower reward as well. Or you can choose to take on greater risks to potentially earn greater rewards. There is nothing forcing you to play with the self-imposed limitation of not leaving highsec. > > Alternatively, you can have total equality of income in highsec at the cost of all of the advantages highsec has over other regions. After all, equality matters, right? Nope highsec has concord and is equal to null. Try again ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 1:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-audacity-of-some-pilots/221047/33 "2020-02-28T01:11:59Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > Nope highsec has a benefit that nullsec doesn’t and is equal to null. Clearly you do not understand the concept of “equal”. You don’t want equality, you want special privileges for yourself and buffs to your personal farming methods. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 4:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-audacity-of-some-pilots/221047/34 "2020-02-28T04:20:12Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Clearly you do not understand the concept of “equal”. You don’t want equality, you want special privileges for yourself and buffs to your personal farming methods. Are you against equality? ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 4:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-audacity-of-some-pilots/221047/35 "2020-02-28T04:21:37Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > Are you against equality? Are you? Because everything you have posted here says you want inequality that benefits you personally, not true equality. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-audacity-of-some-pilots/221047.md?page=2)