# The Case for a 100% Safe Highsec **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 10, 2025, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371 "2025-06-10T16:10:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/188 "2025-06-12T17:36:59Z")
I never ask or encourage people to quit this game. I do encourage them to be better citizens. ---
**Author:** ![Wiesiek\_Swedziwor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wiesiek_swedziwor/32/464208_2.png) [@Wiesiek\_Swedziwor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wiesiek_Swedziwor)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/189 "2025-06-13T17:26:06Z")
Maybe try ask why they reduced number of path in high sec and all freighters actually have only one way? It was change dedicated to killing flying freighters and making life easier for multiacounters gankers threw out hundreds of people who were engaged in trading and weren’t interested in shooting or thieving. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/190 "2025-06-13T18:15:34Z")
That’s the goal, yes. ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_Saki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alice_saki/32/486142_2.png) [@Alice\_Saki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alice_Saki)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2025, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/191 "2025-06-14T12:40:09Z")
Oh look another stupid thread from Chatgpt ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2025, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/192 "2025-06-14T13:05:46Z")
> [@Alice\_Saki](#): > > stupid…Chatgpt So, if I used crayons, would you be able to understand it? * * * ---
**Author:** ![DeMichelle\_Geniale](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichelle_geniale/32/450875_2.png) [@DeMichelle\_Geniale](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichelle_Geniale)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2025, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/193 "2025-06-14T13:11:00Z")
> [@Alice\_Saki](#): > > Oh look another stupid thread from Chatgpt Yes indeed. Seems like Writing is bound to go the way of Spelling after Imagination and Grammar. Oh well, good thing it’s only a forum. ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_Saki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alice_saki/32/486142_2.png) [@Alice\_Saki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alice_Saki)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2025, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/194 "2025-06-14T13:11:37Z")
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**Author:** ![DeMichelle\_Geniale](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichelle_geniale/32/450875_2.png) [@DeMichelle\_Geniale](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichelle_Geniale)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2025, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/195 "2025-06-14T13:14:05Z")
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**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2025, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/196 "2025-06-14T13:27:29Z")
> [@DeMichelle\_Geniale](#): > > Seems like Writing is bound to go the way of Spelling after Imagination and Grammar. > [@Psychology of Ruthless PvP anger\_symbol What the Research Actually Says](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/psychology-of-ruthless-pvp-what-the-research-actually-says/489529/128): > > I’m so subverted that I don’t even realize to what extent. So, you’re very confused, but I’m supposed to take your advice seriously? Got it! * * * ![giphy](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/2/5/e25aa80688ef35c3757d5ab29a77f7a2cfaa8eae.gif) * * * ---
**Author:** ![Nabi\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nabi_kim/32/390748_2.png) [@Nabi\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nabi_Kim)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/197 "2025-06-15T23:25:15Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > Rookie Ventures and industrialists stop rage-quitting after losing their life savings to Tornado spam. This is a myth. New players are least likely to be ganked, and CCP’s own research showed that players who get killed are more likely to stay. Also they have systems where it’s against the rules to gank them already. > [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > No more billions lost to bump-and-blap tactics. Logistics stabilize, market activity rises. Destruction is the engine that drives the EVE economy. If freighters never died in HiSec the stuff you build will be worth a lot less. > [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > Ganking’s ROI collapses when you can’t alpha freighters with 10 suicide alts. You need to show why this is a good thing instead of just saying it as if it is. > [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > Less cat-and-mouse gank support means more dev time for new combat content and balance. Ganking has already been nerfed a million times. If you can’t hang in HiSec in 2025 you just suck. Anyway, HiSec PvP / griefing has been nerfed continuously over the last 12 years. The fact that you are still whining about PvP in a PvP game in 2025 is proof that no matter what CCP nerfs next, your ilk will never be happy and will always “compromise” the line further and further towards carebearism. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/198 "2025-06-16T00:23:54Z")
> [@Nabi\_Kim](#): > > your ilk will never be happy Right back at you. Let’s see where ganking is in a year or two… ---
**Author:** ![Nabi\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nabi_kim/32/390748_2.png) [@Nabi\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nabi_Kim)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/199 "2025-06-16T00:26:09Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > Right back at you. That doesn’t even make sense as a reply to what I said. > [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > Let’s see where ganking is in a year or two… Let’s see where the game is in a year or two. Every time CCP caters to carebears, the playerbase shrinks. Enjoy your single player mining game. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/200 "2025-06-16T00:30:10Z")
> [@Nabi\_Kim](#): > > as a reply to what I said Yes, it does. You said my “ilk” will never be happy. So, I just said, neither will yours. > [@Nabi\_Kim](#): > > caters to carebears 100% the opposite of reality. But hey, you can say anything you like… ---
**Author:** ![Nabi\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nabi_kim/32/390748_2.png) [@Nabi\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nabi_Kim)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/201 "2025-06-16T00:52:12Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > Yes, it does. You said my “ilk” will never be happy. So, I just said, neither will yours. Except I’m not complaining. You are. > [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > 100% the opposite of reality. Demonstrably false. > [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > But hey, you can say anything you like… I like how you added an ellipses for dramatic effect, as if it adds any validity to your childish ramblings. ---
**Author:** ![Salartarium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salartarium/32/468818_2.png) [@Salartarium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salartarium)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 1:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/202 "2025-06-16T01:10:28Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > More pictures, maybe? What was the point of this picture? ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/203 "2025-06-16T01:35:24Z")
_Make HS safe again._ Because Gankers **Cry Harder** When Their Targets Shoot Back. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 1:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/204 "2025-06-16T01:38:07Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > Make HS safe again. It was never safe to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 1:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/205 "2025-06-16T01:53:34Z")
> [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > was never safe In a very practical sense, it was 100% safe in the beginning. * * * ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/f/f/2ffae54bf50611b8ef703c8c68daa971e7c184f9.jpeg) * * * ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/206 "2025-06-16T02:52:56Z")
Hard disagree, Ganking has only ever been nerfed, and CCP themselves always have said that space is dangerous. Remember these are people who live on a volcano and don’t physically stop people from going past warning signs. They believe that just telling us space is dangerous is all we need warning wise. Other players saying CCP is wrong in that HS is safe are the only ones saying that HS was ever safe to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 3:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/207 "2025-06-16T03:26:53Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > it was 100% safe in the beginning. Any facts to back up that statement? I would like to see them please. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371.md?page=11)