# The Case for a 100% Safe Highsec **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 10, 2025, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371 "2025-06-10T16:10:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Obed\_Marshh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/obed_marshh/32/459118_2.png) [@Obed\_Marshh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Obed_Marshh)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 4:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/208 "2025-06-16T04:51:45Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > In a very practical sense, it was 100% safe in the beginning. Do you mean before the first player logged into the game? ---
**Author:** ![DeMichelle\_Geniale](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichelle_geniale/32/450875_2.png) [@DeMichelle\_Geniale](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichelle_Geniale)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/209 "2025-06-16T10:30:32Z")
> [@Salartarium](#): > > What was the point of this picture? Lunatics don’t need points, just bad ideas. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/210 "2025-06-16T10:48:36Z")
I see no evidence, so the matter’s settled. And unless you were here _at the beginning_, your opinion holds no weight. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/211 "2025-06-16T10:50:33Z")
So based on OP ChatGPT’s gonna make Hisec Safe Again? 🤔 :ccpguard: ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/212 "2025-06-16T11:04:35Z")
> [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > Ganking has only ever been nerfed Well, if you’re counting the change to not allow Alpha to go red, then you have to count the decision to allow Alpha to go red as a buff. That happened first. ---
**Author:** ![Telissa\_Baurlin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/telissa_baurlin/32/464035_2.png) [@Telissa\_Baurlin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Telissa_Baurlin)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/213 "2025-06-16T11:17:52Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > Because Gankers **Cry Harder** When Their Targets Shoot Back. Maybe some of them do but for the majority I believe a target shooting back would make for a welcome break from monotony. I’m not a ganker though so this is pure speculation from my part, afterall it’s impossible to get inside other peoples heads (atleast in the literal sense). ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/214 "2025-06-16T11:49:33Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > In a very practical sense, it was 100% safe in the beginning. What a load of baloney. This came out the exact same day ( May 6th 2003 ) EVE began…and it says… _“When actually exploring the many solar systems of EVE, it’s important to note the safety level of a given area. Safety is rated from 1.0 to -1.0. This is broken up into 3 regions: high-sec (1.0 to 0.5), low-sec (0.4 to 0.1), and null-sec (0.0 to -1.0). High-sec is naturally the highest relative level of safety with CONCORD police actively patrolling throughout each system. Aggression in high-sec invariably result is CONCORD destroying the attacking ships.”_ So CONCORD were there from day 1. Which by definition means you could attack people in hisec from day 1…as there’d otherwise be no point in CONCORD. Thus hisec has _never, in the entire history of EVE Online_, been a safe place. It even specifically says ’ **aggression in high-sec** ’. And that is on the very day EVE began. > **[EVE Online (Game) - Giant Bomb](https://www.giantbomb.com/eve-online/3030-14447/)** > > EVE Online is a loosely structured science fiction MMORPG published by CCP Games in which players take on the role of a spaceship pilot exploring a colonized galaxy. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/215 "2025-06-16T11:51:35Z")
Were you there? I was. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/216 "2025-06-16T11:53:57Z")
Nah…you only go back 33 days. Stop faking. If you choose to come on under a 33 day old character…then expect to be treated like one. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/217 "2025-06-16T12:22:28Z")
> [@Telissa\_Baurlin](#): > > Maybe some of them do but for the majority I believe a target shooting back would make for a welcome break from monotony. Though I don’t think they are particularly happy when you shoot their scout / loot grabber alts which sometimes can be quite juicy: > **[Cheetah | Donky-Kong | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/83825139/)** > > Donky-Kong (Native Freshfood) lost their Cheetah in Parchanier (Sinq Laison) Total Value: 1,276,655,169.05 ISK 😈 ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/218 "2025-06-16T13:30:23Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > In a very practical sense, it was 100% safe in the beginning. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/5/55cff0f662a27316a7684131bce39c201936a28d.jpeg) What a strange thing to try to gaslight people about. Highsec was not safe from EvE beta, much less after EvE’s 2003 release. By design. CCP made their game that way. You assert bizarre things, then demand proof. Burden of proof is on you. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/219 "2025-06-16T14:51:25Z")
We’ve got proof he hasn’t played for 22 years. Another case of STOLEN VALOR. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichelle\_Geniale](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichelle_geniale/32/450875_2.png) [@DeMichelle\_Geniale](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichelle_Geniale)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/220 "2025-06-16T14:52:52Z")
@Aiko_Danuja congrats on the new pic. I like it. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/221 "2025-06-16T14:53:09Z")
THANKS! 👸 ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/222 "2025-06-16T14:59:42Z")
> [@Xuxe\_Xu](#): > > Burden of proof is on you. You can believe whatever you like; it doesn’t change reality. Highsec _was_ 100% safe at the start, and it _will_ be again, sooner than you think. Time will sort it out. Enjoy the echo chamber while it lasts. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/223 "2025-06-16T15:01:02Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > at the start What do you mean exactly? At the start of EVE? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/224 "2025-06-16T15:02:43Z")
Some people are just dishonest. Sad! ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/225 "2025-06-16T15:06:58Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Sad! I’m sure the Frostpacker is willing to cheer you up. 🤔 😇 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/226 "2025-06-16T15:07:32Z")
We don’t talk about him unless he pays in advance. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/227 "2025-06-16T15:08:25Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > unless he pays in advance Maybe he’s willing to do just that. Let’s see. @Iceacid_Frostpacker 🍿 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371.md?page=10) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371.md?page=12)