# The Case for a 100% Safe Highsec **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 10, 2025, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371 "2025-06-10T16:10:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/228 "2025-06-16T15:15:23Z")
I’ll do three personal attacks for a billion, with a taunting jibe for five. Ten billion gets you a full gankopsychopathy analysis. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/231 "2025-06-16T15:31:56Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > sexually explicit or deviant themes You must have a wild fantasy if me mentioning the Frostpacker might cheer Aiko up then discussing how much he would have to pay for that privilege somehow made you think the subject has any sexual or deviant themes. 🤔 Anyway let’s stay on topic by you answering the ontopic question: > [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > > [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > > > at the start > > What do you mean exactly? At the start of EVE? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/232 "2025-06-16T15:34:00Z")
He’s obsessed! ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/233 "2025-06-16T17:17:23Z")
I was there… * * * [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/4/74713ef411af661b56a74820cc16709c8f3f587c.jpeg "Xirt Box story") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avzQQvOIY78) * * * ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/234 "2025-06-16T17:35:33Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > I respectfully suggest we maintain a standard of decorum befitting the community and focus on content relevant to EVE itself. Lol. This is on par with the Devil dialling 911 to report a fire in hell. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/235 "2025-06-16T17:38:08Z")
Again, answer a simple question: > [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > > [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > > > at the start > > What do you mean exactly? At the start of EVE? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/236 "2025-06-16T17:43:31Z")
high sec is already safe as it is and, once again, concord is like the police in real life, they can’t stop the initial first shot to you but they try to avenge you ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/237 "2025-06-16T18:01:57Z")
> [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](#): > > concord is like the police in real life Your local police must really suck. Ours are very pro-active. ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/238 "2025-06-16T18:05:58Z")
police, like concord, take times to respond; it’s a deterence, they can’t excatly stop a criminal holding a gun above your head be glad that concord is able to turn off your warp drive the second you commit a criminal act; the old concord could be evaded and killed over and over ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/239 "2025-06-16T18:07:53Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > Again, answer a simple question: He isn’t capable of a conversation or dialogue. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/240 "2025-06-16T18:20:44Z")
Every time someone brings up making highsec safer, the same tired crowd shows up foaming at the mouth like it’s a threat to their personality cult. But here’s the truth you won’t admit: Ganking isn’t PvP. It’s PvE where the ‘enemy’ can’t shoot back in time. It’s just a loot table with a human face. You’re not elite. You’re not clever. You’re farming people with no weapons and calling it ‘content’. And the irony? You’re the first to cry when someone suggests a fair fight. The moment the target shoots back or the system gets balanced, you vanish. So spare us the sermons about ‘freedom’ and ‘risk’. You’re not defending the sandbox. You’re defending a loophole. ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/241 "2025-06-16T18:24:22Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > He isn’t capable of a conversation or dialogue. I have already given up on the process. ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/242 "2025-06-16T18:28:28Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > Ganking isn’t PvP. It’s PvE where the ‘enemy’ can’t shoot back in time. It’s just a loot table with a human face. Ganking is PVP. That it happens against ships that cannot win by fighting does not matter. PvP in EvE is not about fair fights. It is about maneuvering and picking the fight you want. For the prey of a gank to win they just need to not be on grid. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/244 "2025-06-16T18:32:45Z")
You still haven’t replied to: > [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > > [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > > > at the start > > What do you mean exactly? At the start of EVE? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/246 "2025-06-16T18:38:56Z")
We want to know, what made EVE HS safe at the start? What exactly is the this golden age you want to get back to? Enlighten us what it is you want. If you can’t answer that question, are you even arguing for anything? ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/247 "2025-06-16T18:39:50Z")
🤭 You seem confused, paranoid, scared… of answering a simple question: > [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > > [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > > > at the start > > What do you mean exactly? At the start of EVE? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/248 "2025-06-16T18:40:34Z")
and obsessed! ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/250 "2025-06-16T18:47:03Z")
Despite your offtopic spam the question still remains: > [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > > [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > > > at the start > > What do you mean exactly? At the start of EVE? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/251 "2025-06-16T18:49:23Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > the question still remains Is water wet? You’re question is ignorant. * * * EVE Online officially launched on **May 6, 2003**. * * * ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/252 "2025-06-16T18:49:58Z")
By not answering the question and refusing to say what about it made it safe, OP is effectively surrendering their position that HS was ever safe. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371.md?page=11) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371.md?page=13)