# The Case for a 100% Safe Highsec **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 10, 2025, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371 "2025-06-10T16:10:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/253 "2025-06-16T18:50:16Z")
Your ChatGPT seem confused, so again clarify your earlier words: > [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > > [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > > > at the start > > What do you mean exactly? At the start of EVE? šŸ¤” ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/254 "2025-06-16T18:50:29Z")
You might need to reboot the ChatGPT - sometimes it gets stuck. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/256 "2025-06-16T18:55:04Z")
Not even a single word related to your own thread. šŸ˜Š Anyway you still havenā€™t answered a simple question: > [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > > [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > > > at the start > > What do you mean exactly? At the start of EVE? šŸ¤” ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/257 "2025-06-16T18:59:20Z")
I think heā€™s jealous that people agree with me, and nobody ever agrees with him. Pretty much everything he posts is a desperate ā€œlook at meā€ attempt to get attention and he hopes to somehow convince someone, anyone, to dislike me and oppose ganking. He wishes he had lapdogs, and I have a whole kennel! Itā€™s not fair! šŸ˜­ However, despite his obsessive efforts to discredit me, his constant whining seems to have had the opposite effect. For example, Mike recently give me a free Kronos. Meanwhile, people are happy to defend ganking all day, even Glenduil has conceded that miners are ā€œinvincibleā€. Thatā€™s pretty cool, and Iā€™m happy that we are all coming together and finding common ground in support of ganking. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/259 "2025-06-16T19:01:52Z")
Oh noes! I died to Trig! Whatever will I do? /s Are you going to have a proper conversation or are you going to keep avoiding talking about your own topic? ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/260 "2025-06-16T19:02:14Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > you still havenā€™t answered Scroll up, champ. Itā€™s right thereā€”unless youā€™re just pretending not to see it. Also, gotta love how memes exposing hypocrisy mysteriously vanish, but the off-topic bait gets a free pass every time. ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/261 "2025-06-16T19:02:54Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > Carebear Much? Ad-homs are not a persuasive argument. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/262 "2025-06-16T19:02:54Z")
> [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > about your own topic? Iā€™ve answered all serious questions. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/263 "2025-06-16T19:03:08Z")
The question wasnā€™t when did EVE start, the question is what made HS safe at the start of EVE? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/264 "2025-06-16T19:03:34Z")
Donā€™t worry, his previous accounts (that he biomassed and/or sold) have some exceptionally cringy lossmails (thatā€™s why Goons kicked him). I canā€™t post those here because killmail shaming, which he just did, is against the rules of the forum (as he knows). Free free to mail me ingame and Iā€™ll dig up some funny lossmails from the carebear who tries to hide his killboard. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/265 "2025-06-16T19:04:29Z")
> [@T\_Elliot](#): > > not a persuasive argument. You should knowā€¦ > [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > The question wasnā€™t Read his original question and get back to me. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/266 "2025-06-16T19:05:24Z")
My question remains, what was it that made HS safe then? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/267 "2025-06-16T19:05:48Z")
Maybe he means it was safe before anyone logged in. I once encountered someone who credibly described ganking during the first week. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/268 "2025-06-16T19:06:13Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > heā€™s jealous True and heā€™s also desperately grasping for straws. šŸ¤” > [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > Are you going to have a proper conversation I think he is physically incapable of that. Canā€™t even answer a simple question directly. šŸ¤” > [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > how memes exposing hypocrisy mysteriously vanish, but the off-topic bait gets a free pass every time The only offtopic bait here is from you and nobody cares to reply to it. šŸ˜‰ > [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > Itā€™s right there Nope, answer it directly: > [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > > [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > > > at the start > > What do you mean exactly? At the start of EVE? šŸ¤” ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/269 "2025-06-16T19:06:56Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > You should knowā€¦ Can you show me where I gave you one line ad-homs in reaction to a conversation? ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/272 "2025-06-16T19:17:04Z")
Instead of posting offtopic ChatGTP spam that is against the rules answer the question: > [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > > [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > > > at the start > > What do you mean exactly? At the start of EVE? šŸ¤” ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/273 "2025-06-16T19:19:49Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > - **ā€œYou guys are sprinting to reply like your killboards depend on it.ā€** > - **ā€œThat much typing in a minute? Desperationā€™s starting to smell.ā€** > - **ā€œI didnā€™t realize I struck _every_ nerve at once.ā€** > - **ā€œAt this point, itā€™s less of a rebuttal and more of a group therapy session.ā€** > - **ā€œCalm down, youā€™ll rupture a clone bay.ā€** Are you trying to imply that those are quotes from me? (edited cus I spel gud) ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/274 "2025-06-16T19:21:01Z")
> [@T\_Elliot](#): > > Are you trying to imply I donā€™t think he tries to imply anything, he just asks ChatGTP to reply on his behalf as he canā€™t formulate a single opinion of his own let alone answer a simple question. šŸ¤” ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/275 "2025-06-16T19:24:01Z")
Literal bot, replaced his brain with a machine. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/276 "2025-06-16T19:31:36Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > Ganking isnā€™t PvP. Itā€™s PvE where the ā€˜enemyā€™ canā€™t shoot back in time. Itā€™s just a loot table with a human face. Blah blah blah. You talk about the same tired crowdā€¦yet you bring up the same tired BS that gets blurted out ad infinitum. And who ever said anyone had to have weapons for it to be PvP ? You just totally made that one up. Whatā€™s more, ganking is grossly overstated as a ā€˜problemā€™. I have 18 chars and have only ever been ganked in one of themā€¦and that was 4 years ago. Iā€™ve mined, transported billions worth of stuff around, flown expensive ships ( some unarmed ) around EVE, and in all that time not been ganked. Yet the anti-gankers rattle on as if one only had to undock and a gank fleet is there. In factā€¦_most of the time_ you can fly through Uedama ( for example ) and there are no gankers there. I have one char that even _lives_ thereā€¦and has never been ganked. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371.md?page=12) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371.md?page=14)