# The Case for a 100% Safe Highsec **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 10, 2025, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371 "2025-06-10T16:10:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/168 "2025-06-11T22:58:42Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > you didn’t answer my question Haven’t you heard? Only his questions matter… ---
**Author:** ![Wolfgang\_Jannesen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wolfgang_jannesen/32/496726_2.png) [@Wolfgang\_Jannesen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wolfgang_Jannesen)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 11:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/169 "2025-06-11T23:41:05Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > I guess HS is just fine the way it is… Yeah pretty much! ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/170 "2025-06-11T23:44:35Z")
> [@Wolfgang\_Jannesen](#): > > Yeah ![giphy](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/8/f/98fd75448e543fa6e9159a4101c75f8284663a57.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 12:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/171 "2025-06-12T00:22:36Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > Such balance and counterplay. Wonders how I haven’t been ganked in any of my 18 chars for getting on for 4 years if its all so dire and I need massive ‘counterplay’. Do you guys practice posting so much BS…or does it just come naturally ? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/172 "2025-06-12T00:24:54Z")
He actually uses ChatGPT. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/173 "2025-06-12T00:29:52Z")
I presume the ‘GPT’ is Gigapixels of Trash. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 1:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/174 "2025-06-12T01:19:40Z")
The usual trolls are putting in overtime to derail this thread. What exactly has them so rattled? ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 2:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/175 "2025-06-12T02:39:00Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > information that you can use against me. Don’t worry I’m not using it. I just want to play a video game. 🙂 In comparison: “A pro boxer’s hands when used to punch against an opponent inside the ring it’s called game of sports but outside the ring it is considered “deadly weapons” .” ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 5:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/176 "2025-06-12T05:18:42Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > you didn’t answer my question. Thanks for playing. What part of your question didn’t get answered and is still unclear? ---
**Author:** ![Eternus8lux8lucis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eternus8lux8lucis/32/385152_2.png) [@Eternus8lux8lucis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eternus8lux8lucis)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/177 "2025-06-12T05:27:21Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > Okay… let’s talk about the horrors of real life that happen every day. Let’s put them all into Eve Online. Yes. I like this idea. I can think of some really nasty things that happen in the real world. Are you sure you want to use that argument? Okay, lets talk about being human and what humans do, say, think and feel. The fact that you are here playing a game, by your example, is irrelevant to any discussion because well its not real life. So get off the internet and go outside… 🙄 If you want to nit pick at what is real and what is a game go for it. But youll look foolish in the end because you ARE human, like we all are, and ‘what we do in art imitates life, and life imitates art.’ Anything other than this is disingenuous arguments trying to proverbially “win” and argument for arguments sake without actual reasoning or discourse. ---
**Author:** ![Eternus8lux8lucis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eternus8lux8lucis/32/385152_2.png) [@Eternus8lux8lucis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eternus8lux8lucis)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 5:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/178 "2025-06-12T05:34:38Z")
Very good point. To counter the Uboat threat in WW1 and WW2 what did the allies do? They formed convoys of ships with armed escorts numerous enough to ensure damage to the Uboat wolfpacks. The fact that most high sec users cannot or will not do this, that convoys back in the day to null sec from high sec hubs were a common sight, but were a null sec united front initiative speaks volumes. Even in nature bait balls and numbers guarantee the survival of species but sacrifice the few to predators. But shhhh… cant use real life examples or else its all gotta get in the game. 🙄 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/179 "2025-06-12T08:10:25Z")
I’m not for or against suicide ganking… This thread should actually be about Risk verses Reward and Actions verses Consequences pertaining to that topic… What I am against is the current unbalanced ratio of Risk verses Reward and Actions verses Consequences… Meaning there’s little risk for gaining large rewards and little consequences for big actions… Now if that wasn’t the case, then this type of gameplay wouldn’t be so prevalent… Here’s the easy answer to making it more balanced… Just implement a ‘3 Strike Security Rule’ with the current game mechanics… Meaning after the 3rd criminal flag is gained, that character is branded as habitual criminal with KOS status in High Sec space… Yeah, it won’t stop suicide ganking in High Sec space but it’ll most likely give the career criminals cause to be more selective with their targets… ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/180 "2025-06-12T11:47:13Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > branded as habitual criminal with KOS status in High Sec space Also, remove tags. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/181 "2025-06-12T14:06:30Z")
No, the security tags stay in the game so characters can repair their criminal status after 1st and 2nd strikes… However after the 3rd strike, those tags will no longer work due to being branded as a habitual criminal with KOS status in High Sec space… ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/182 "2025-06-12T14:18:21Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > However after the 3rd strike Good call. ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/183 "2025-06-12T14:51:37Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > However after the 3rd strike, those tags will no longer work due to being branded as a habitual criminal with KOS status in High Sec space… This is Good but mining barge, marauders and faction Battleships should also be banned is highsec. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/184 "2025-06-12T15:29:21Z")
> [@Clenis](#): > > victims can’t defend themselves until it happens Sure they can, and many have. It simply takes just a little forethought and effort. > [@Clenis](#): > > the fact the game hummed along fine for years without them is indicative Seriously? Ganking has been a thing in EvE since beta. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/185 "2025-06-12T16:55:01Z")
> [@Clenis](#): > > the fact the game hummed along fine for years without them is indicative This didn’t just start. It’s always been a thing. It used to happen all the time all throughout High Sec. Now it’s pretty easy to get away from it. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/186 "2025-06-12T16:57:06Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > This thread should actually be about Risk verses Reward and Actions verses Consequences The usual meaningless word salad stock phrases in other words. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371/187 "2025-06-12T17:24:55Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > This thread should actually be about Risk verses Reward The risk of Highsec mining is too low. The reward of Highsec mining is too high. The risk of Highsec ganking is too high. The reward of Highsec ganking is too low. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-a-100-safe-highsec/489371.md?page=10)