# The Case for Catizstag - irrelevant Amarr Militia drama **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Tags:** amarr, low-sec\ **Created:** [May 9, 2018, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-catizstag-irrelevant-amarr-militia-drama/75310 "2018-05-09T21:12:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-catizstag-irrelevant-amarr-militia-drama/75310/101 "2018-05-14T17:33:40Z")
Yes, sooo much this… ---
**Author:** ![edeity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/edeity/32/251884_2.png) [@edeity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/edeity)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-catizstag-irrelevant-amarr-militia-drama/75310/102 "2018-05-14T21:42:59Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > the entire Pendulum Game is just a CONCORD-sponsored bloodsport Sounds horrific. What ever should be done? ---
**Author:** ![Ravana\_729](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ravana_729/32/55540_2.png) [@Ravana\_729](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ravana_729)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-catizstag-irrelevant-amarr-militia-drama/75310/103 "2018-05-14T23:11:47Z")
Regarding sovereignty and permanence coming up for vote, I’m speaking in terms of several decades, not a few years…perhaps even centuries considering our new lifespan reality. I don’t think full control of a system should be on the table for anything less than 20 years in my opinion. Enough for a generation to be raised to adulthood at the very least. Then, that generation should be able to democratically vote whether they wish to remain in the hands of the Empire that has won them for so long, or not. As for my efforts, you have no idea what those efforts consist of so you have no authority to speak on them, Arrendis. AFW is merely playtime for me…there is no effort about it. > Sounds horrific. What ever should be done? Play! ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-catizstag-irrelevant-amarr-militia-drama/75310/104 "2018-05-15T00:06:00Z")
> [@Ravana\_729](#): > > Then, that generation should be able to democratically vote So a generation should be raised that explicitly rejects the system of government of 3 of the 4 participants of the CEWPA, conduct a referendum those 3 wouldn’t recognize as legally valid, and the _completely non-democratic_ CONCORD should award possession of the system based on that? > [@Ravana\_729](#): > > As for my efforts, you have no idea what those efforts consist of so you have no authority to speak on them, Arrendis. Correct! I have only your public statements and visible actions to judge you on. So I am. Just like everyone else does to everyone else (me included). Don’t like it? Sucks to be you. ---
**Author:** ![Ria\_Nieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ria_nieyli/32/447728_2.png) [@Ria\_Nieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ria_Nieyli)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-catizstag-irrelevant-amarr-militia-drama/75310/105 "2018-05-15T13:48:49Z")
> [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](#): > > You prounounce the T and Z together, which turns into a harder “S” sound. How is that so hard to understand? It’s actually pronounced Цви, get it right. ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-catizstag-irrelevant-amarr-militia-drama/75310/106 "2018-05-15T16:00:23Z")
Fighting for the empire is a dead form of comedy… Piracy and fighting for one self is a good way my to go. ---
**Author:** ![Ravana\_729](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ravana_729/32/55540_2.png) [@Ravana\_729](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ravana_729)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-catizstag-irrelevant-amarr-militia-drama/75310/107 "2018-05-15T16:19:55Z")
But that dank LP bro… I want that extremely fashionable jacket. ---
**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-catizstag-irrelevant-amarr-militia-drama/75310/108 "2018-05-15T16:28:36Z")
can always buy one from jita… ---
**Author:** ![Ravana\_729](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ravana_729/32/55540_2.png) [@Ravana\_729](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ravana_729)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-catizstag-irrelevant-amarr-militia-drama/75310/109 "2018-05-16T18:12:07Z")
Well then I’d be more of a poser than I already am in Amarrmil. I must earn it myself! ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-catizstag-irrelevant-amarr-militia-drama/75310/110 "2018-05-17T00:21:22Z")
But you already missed out on the really rare one. ---
**Author:** ![Ravana\_729](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ravana_729/32/55540_2.png) [@Ravana\_729](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ravana_729)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-catizstag-irrelevant-amarr-militia-drama/75310/111 "2018-05-17T05:27:32Z")
And what one was that? ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-catizstag-irrelevant-amarr-militia-drama/75310/112 "2018-05-17T05:48:24Z")
The Amarr Empire Command Jacket, of course. Available through LP from the highsec resource wars store. Which is totally incompatible LP with every other source of Amarr LP. ---
**Author:** ![Ravana\_729](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ravana_729/32/55540_2.png) [@Ravana\_729](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ravana_729)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-catizstag-irrelevant-amarr-militia-drama/75310/113 "2018-05-17T08:11:03Z")
But, one earns it through mining. Why in the world would I want to wear that? No offense, but I’m not a miner. Why have I missed out on it, anyways? It’s still in the store and I could easily go pay off Concord and go mine if I did want it… ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-catizstag-irrelevant-amarr-militia-drama/75310/114 "2018-05-17T11:58:14Z")
Ah, but no. One earned it through mining or defending miners from enemies—including capsuleers of the opposing militia. And yes, it’s still in the LP store… but you can’t get the LP anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Ravana\_729](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ravana_729/32/55540_2.png) [@Ravana\_729](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ravana_729)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-catizstag-irrelevant-amarr-militia-drama/75310/115 "2018-05-17T22:51:27Z")
They’re pretty cheap in Jita, less than third of a billion for the men’s jacket. Are you sure, Arrendis? My friend in Jita says she’s still getting offers from the State Military Stockpile, and Golden says she sees offerings for Imperial War Reserves, both of them say the missions promise the correct type of LP for the Empire stores. I just spoke to some rando in the Resource Wars channel and they confirmed they recieved LP for Federal Strategic Material after completing the mission - 200 LP. Apologies but I couldn’t find anything about this anywhere else and just want to make sure I have the right info. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-case-for-catizstag-irrelevant-amarr-militia-drama/75310/116 "2018-08-15T22:51:32Z")
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