# The Champion is Reborn **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [February 22, 2019, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873 "2019-02-22T22:49:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/41 "2019-02-23T08:58:05Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > You know, I don’t even hate Nauplius at this point. He’s… trying, in his way, to be better than he was. …_Really_. Considering _this_, you giving a chance to Jade isn’t exactly praise. You’ll forgive anything, apparently. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/42 "2019-02-23T09:01:24Z")
I never said I forgave him. Just that I don’t _hate_ him. There’s a difference. ---
**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/43 "2019-02-23T09:05:49Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > I never said I forgave him. Just that I don’t _hate_ him. There’s a difference. Well, you’re a better person than I am because I sure as hell couldn’t think like that, not now and perhaps ever. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/44 "2019-02-23T09:06:22Z")
> [@Teinyhr](#): > > Now I’m intrigued as to what makes her special over Funk or Nauplius, whom you two have no qualms about hating. Jade has a chance. Funk doesn’t. How do I know? Call it a hunch. Comes from hearing people out. It boils down to Jade knows better. Whether she will _act_ better is up to Fate and Luck, but she knows. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/45 "2019-02-23T09:08:54Z")
> [@Teinyhr](#): > > Well, you’re a better person than I am because I sure as hell couldn’t think like that Naaaaaah… … I’m better cuz I’m a Sebiestor. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Sah\_Phyre](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sah_phyre/32/378085_2.png) [@Sah\_Phyre](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sah_Phyre)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/46 "2019-02-23T09:15:13Z")
So, a Blooder goes out in a blaze of… misery, rejection and self-hatred. There’s a lesson to be learned here, isn’t there? ---
**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/47 "2019-02-23T09:17:16Z")
> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#): > > Jade has a chance. Funk doesn’t. Well duh, Funk’s dead. Hopefully. I have this sneaking suspicion she’ll be back. While she might have a chance, and you know what, I’ll trust your hunch; but I’ll heavily disagree in that does she actually deserve a chance. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/48 "2019-02-23T09:25:46Z")
I’m not sure any of us _deserve_ a chance. ---
**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/49 "2019-02-23T09:42:35Z")
Clearly you think she does, else you wouldn’t be here. ---
**Author:** ![Tyrel\_Toov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tyrel_toov/32/387953_2.png) [@Tyrel\_Toov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tyrel_Toov)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/50 "2019-02-23T09:50:09Z")
So about that back flip… can we make it a double? ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/51 "2019-02-23T11:38:20Z")
> [@Teinyhr](#): > > I’ll heavily disagree in that does she actually deserve a chance. I don’t think I said she does. But sometimes we get things in excess to what we deserve. ---
**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/52 "2019-02-23T12:02:50Z")
> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#): > > I don’t think I said she does. You don’t have to. When people talk about giving chances, deserving them is usually implied. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/53 "2019-02-23T12:52:56Z")
> [@Teinyhr](#): > > When people talk about giving chances, deserving them is usually implied. I don’t think that’s not true. It is implied they are not beyond hope, nor have done something to permanently exclude them from getting a chance, but it does not imply they _deserve_ one, in the sense that they necessarily need or should or are entitled to have one. ---
**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/54 "2019-02-23T12:55:34Z")
Well, I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. On that and a few other things, my position on of which I believe is abundantly clear by now. ---
**Author:** ![Jade\_Blackwind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jade_blackwind/32/197719_2.png) [@Jade\_Blackwind](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jade_Blackwind)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/55 "2019-02-23T13:02:22Z")
> [@Tyrel\_Toov](#): > > So about that back flip… can we make it a double? To please Teinyhr? Hell no. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/56 "2019-02-23T13:04:04Z")
> [@Teinyhr](#): > > Well, I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. I accept this without any open conflict or hidden resentment. ---
**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/57 "2019-02-23T13:21:29Z")
I’m but one of many who have hoped you’d kick the bucket, but I see I’ve got a special place in your heart now. ❤ Also, apparently there is a data ghost around or it is as I suspected that Funks departure was prematurely celebrated. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/58 "2019-02-23T13:29:04Z")
> [@Sah\_Phyre](#): > > So, a Blooder goes out in a blaze of… misery, rejection and self-hatred. > There’s a lesson to be learned here, isn’t there? If I am not mistaken, from what I heard… blooders don’t have self-hatred and rejection to them simply cannot be applied, because their sort of relation between humans is power and domination. If I understand it correctly, the goal of a blooder would be not to get acceptance from others, but control and subordination. ---
**Author:** ![Tyrel\_Toov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tyrel_toov/32/387953_2.png) [@Tyrel\_Toov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tyrel_Toov)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/59 "2019-02-23T13:39:33Z")
> [@Teinyhr](#): > > I’m but one of many who have hoped you’d kick the bucket Personally, I don’t care if she kicks the bucket. I just want to see her do a backflip. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/60 "2019-02-23T14:13:48Z")
Why? Someone has to deserve a chance for me to give it to them? As my logi pilots know, I am a generous and benevolent god. 😉 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873.md?page=4)