# The Champion is Reborn

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [February 22, 2019, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873 "2019-02-22T22:49:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Arsia\_Elkin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arsia_elkin/32/388703_2.png) [@Arsia\_Elkin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arsia_Elkin)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/161 "2019-07-22T17:14:26Z")

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Don’t you ■■■■■■■ dare!

You don’t get to quote a verse about serving _God and Empire_ and claim you live up to my standards because you serve some shitty capsuleer terrorist group.

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/162 "2019-07-22T17:23:32Z")

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> [@Utari\_Onzo](#):
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> This thread is now about cats.

Excuse me, but this thread was about unicorns first.

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**Author:** ![Utari\_Onzo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/utari_onzo/32/378493_2.png) [@Utari\_Onzo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Utari_Onzo)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/163 "2019-07-22T17:27:25Z")

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Fine. Have it your way. Enjoy the rainbow poop everywhere.

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/164 "2019-07-22T17:29:49Z")

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Do people keep unicorns as pets then?

I mean I don’t really care for domesticated animals myself, as a rule, so I’d not know.

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**Author:** ![Tamiroth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tamiroth/32/277869_2.png) [@Tamiroth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tamiroth)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/165 "2019-07-22T17:33:41Z")

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I had an unicorn when I was five to twelve years old.

It was a gene-modded pony, of course.

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**Author:** ![Ange\_des\_Larmes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ange_des_larmes/32/304752_2.png) [@Ange\_des\_Larmes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ange_des_Larmes)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/166 "2019-07-22T17:51:17Z")

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Why am I the terrorist, Ms Elkin? Because you say so? Because my ideology differs to yours? Because of reputation set by the old Empires of the cluster?

You and I both believe CONCORD to be corrupt. Despite our reasoning being different, I would have hoped that we could have worked together to bring the chance of reform to the table.

At that point we clearly would differ on the details and you can once again resort to name-calling. Until then, the enemy of my enemy etc…

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/167 "2019-07-22T18:01:56Z")

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_Unicorns_.

… and cats. It’s actually a pretty good pairing, if you think about it in the wrong way.

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**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/168 "2019-07-22T18:10:39Z")

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> [@Arrendis](#):
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> if you think about it in the wrong way.

And what is the correct way to think about cats & unicorns ?

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/169 "2019-07-22T18:11:00Z")

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One that doesn’t come up with ‘Horny things and pussies’.

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**Author:** ![Constantin\_Baracca](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/constantin_baracca/32/170074_2.png) [@Constantin\_Baracca](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Constantin_Baracca)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/170 "2019-07-22T18:11:47Z")

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I’ll see myself out…

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**Author:** ![Arsia\_Elkin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arsia_elkin/32/388703_2.png) [@Arsia\_Elkin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arsia_Elkin)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/171 "2019-07-22T18:20:00Z")

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> [@Ange\_des\_Larmes](#):
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> At that point we clearly would differ on the details and you can once again resort to name-calling. Until then, the enemy of my enemy etc…

It doesn’t always work that way when you have ethics.

You dislike CONCORD because they try to control your actions.

I dislike them because they don’t do a good enough job controlling your actions.

I care about doing what’s right even if I sometimes fail.

You serve as a prime example of why there should be no independent capsuleers.

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**Author:** ![Ange\_des\_Larmes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ange_des_larmes/32/304752_2.png) [@Ange\_des\_Larmes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ange_des_Larmes)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/172 "2019-07-22T21:01:14Z")

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> [@Arsia\_Elkin](#):
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> You dislike CONCORD because they try to control your actions.
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> You serve as a prime example of why there should be no independent capsuleers.

You presume a lot of me, Ms Elkin. Had you seen my recent holoreel (and I highly advise you do) you may understand my motives better. But, for your benefit, I will give you a brief overview.

I wish to make New Eden a better place. How? By policing the inequalities between capsuleer and non-capsuleer. Challenging capsuleers to think about those without infomorphs and the impact we have on their lives.

I try to stop cities being torn down to make way for refineries.

I try to halt the depletion of entire asteroid belts that causes local planets to be starved of needed resources.

I aim to prevent the unnecessary deaths of the crews of non-capsuleer ships for the sole purpose of getting ISK.

Do I enjoy my work? Yes. But only because I think of what our cluster could be and I know that my actions are helping us get there.

Does every death of a crew member of a ship I destroy weigh heavy on me? Yes. But those truly at fault are the capsuleers at the helm. We have tried to warn those pilots. Educate them. But they still continue to put their crew at risk for ISK knowing that they will never have to face the consequences.

And you know what? CONCORD doesn’t try to prevent such crimes or massacres. Instead they actively _condone_ these acts of violence due to their corrupt focus on how profitable capsuleers are. So much so that they barely enforce the laws of the sovereign territories they patrol in let alone respond to any criticism.

And if CONCORD and capsuleers refuse to listen to our words, we have to use the only language they understand…

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**Author:** ![Arsia\_Elkin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arsia_elkin/32/388703_2.png) [@Arsia\_Elkin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arsia_Elkin)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/173 "2019-07-22T21:45:21Z")

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> [@Ange\_des\_Larmes](#):
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> I wish to make New Eden a better place. How? By policing the inequalities between capsuleer and non-capsuleer. Challenging capsuleers to think about those without infomorphs and the impact we have on their lives.

Seems to me that your lot just likes aggravating and trying to extort ISK from random industrialists, but okay.

> [@Ange\_des\_Larmes](#):
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> I try to stop cities being torn down to make way for refineries.
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> I try to halt the depletion of entire asteroid belts that causes local planets to be starved of needed resources.

I’ve never heard of any cities being torn down for refineries in the least. I also don’t think there’s anything to support the idea that miners are hurting planets in their areas.

> [@Ange\_des\_Larmes](#):
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> I aim to prevent the unnecessary deaths of the crews of non-capsuleer ships for the sole purpose of getting ISK.

You mean you’re protecting baseline Blooders, Sansha, Angels, and Guristas pirates who might happen to be in the belts with miners? Sounds like you’re still the problem here.

You know what? You’ve taken enough of my time today. I’m done here.

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**Author:** ![Anabella\_Rella](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anabella_rella/32/515671_2.png) [@Anabella\_Rella](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anabella_Rella)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/174 "2019-07-22T21:56:15Z")

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Such lofty-sounding words from a low-life Code pirate.

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**Author:** ![Ange\_des\_Larmes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ange_des_larmes/32/304752_2.png) [@Ange\_des\_Larmes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ange_des_Larmes)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/175 "2019-07-22T22:21:54Z")

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> [@Arsia\_Elkin](#):
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> You know what? You’ve taken enough of my time today. I’m done here.

I respect your decision to disengage in conversation with me.

It is disappointing to see such a venerated capsuleer succumb to the anti-New Order propaganda those who oppose us peddle. As such, you are wrong in almost all of your assertions about me and my motives but you are well within your rights to disengage.

> [@Anabella\_Rella](#):
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> Such lofty-sounding words from a low-life Code pirate.

I am well accustomed to people attacking me due to my alliance instead of my words. I, however, rarely get complimented on my words at the same time so I wish to thank you for that at least.

However, if you would like to remove the slanderous reference to me being a pirate I would greatly appreciate it.

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**Author:** ![Anabella\_Rella](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anabella_rella/32/515671_2.png) [@Anabella\_Rella](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anabella_Rella)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 1:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/176 "2019-07-23T01:48:33Z")

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OK, how about racketeer, extortionist and ganker who allies with pirates then?

Still, you’re a bit more literate than other Code members I’ve encountered on the IGS so, well done in that regard.

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**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/177 "2019-07-23T07:25:36Z")

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You people have turned a thread about unicorns and cats into a travesty.

Shame on you. Shame. Shaaaaaaaaaaaaame.

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**Author:** ![Mammal\_Tafren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mammal_tafren/32/131376_2.png) [@Mammal\_Tafren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mammal_Tafren)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/178 "2019-07-23T10:00:35Z")

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The Hueromont Snowy Longhair is a fine cat.

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**Author:** ![Astaire\_Quatrevaux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/astaire_quatrevaux/32/278706_2.png) [@Astaire\_Quatrevaux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Astaire_Quatrevaux)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/179 "2019-07-23T17:04:23Z")

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I can confirm that an individual going by the name of “Knuf\_Aknayna” appeared in the Intergalactic Summit fluid router and interacted with myself and one other individual for a sustained length of time.

The individual’s speech was rendered in reverse by my comms as well as the other person’s.

She expressed that she was uncertain as to how she had died as well as how she came back to life. It was suggested that Ms. Blackwind would be privy to those details, and I offered to look into it; but given the note added to the original post here, I take it that Ms. Funk has been in contact with Ms. Blackwind herself. If that is the case, then I will consider the matter closed on my end.

I should add that, given my personal opinions as to the veracity of these events, I do consider this post to be on topic with the subject of “unicorns”.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-champion-is-reborn/141873/180 "2019-07-23T17:53:15Z")

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Or, you could take the far more reasonable approach to assume they are and have been playing some idiotic game to try to screw with peoples’ heads, and ignore them.

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