# The Cluster wide Drifter crisis and its consequences **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [January 30, 2025, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-cluster-wide-drifter-crisis-and-its-consequences/475494 "2025-01-30T22:27:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Michael\_Minate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_minate/32/496223_2.png) [@Michael\_Minate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Minate)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 2:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-cluster-wide-drifter-crisis-and-its-consequences/475494/41 "2025-02-08T02:58:10Z")
By the way, I discovered that it is possible to recover spectral vision captures from the wreckage of scrutinizers. ---
**Author:** ![Kalodote\_Lafisques](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalodote_lafisques/32/388261_2.png) [@Kalodote\_Lafisques](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalodote_Lafisques)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-cluster-wide-drifter-crisis-and-its-consequences/475494/42 "2025-02-08T14:31:34Z")
The pattern makes think about the suspicious signals like the Caldari Siphons or the illegal Gallente signal outposts… ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Minate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_minate/32/496223_2.png) [@Michael\_Minate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Minate)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-cluster-wide-drifter-crisis-and-its-consequences/475494/43 "2025-02-08T21:59:46Z")
The Nein system’s Vigilant Dreamer has been pinpointed, I went there and was able to take pictures and hack shield arrays. ![Capture d’écran (2524)](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/a/f/9af9317af14de9459b791a619f58fde176987517.jpeg) ![Capture d’écran (2523)](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/5/b/55b7bceb0f84a71e981865bb2ecae19df7413e45.jpeg) I was also able to analyze the Dreamer and Shield arrays. ![Capture d’écran (2514)](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/a/3/da37ea46c5fa6720c5a24f69b0e21fa73cf250cf.png) ![Capture d’écran (2515)](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/c/2/0c2e2ae288a13af560918eca7b4ff5bed22105cc.png) To make the Dreamer vulnerable, we need to hack all 5 Shield arrays roughly simultaneously and if we fail we will need to re-hack the arrays. If we fail to destroy the Dreamer within a certain period of time after at least one capsuleer has arrived on site, the arrays become invulnerable and then the Drifters retreat and leave the system. I got this information from Velln Moonshatter, whom I thank because it will be useful for all those who want to protect the empires of the Drifters. After hacking an array, I retrieved what appears to be a simulated baseliner. ![Capture d’écran (2529)](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/6/3/863bef089b5dd5055f5155e14257e42c802871ac.png) Here is my analysis of it: ![Capture d’écran (2517)](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/2/c/82cc349511540d9f5a4d3c8157d2a558781ad05f.png) I think this is proof that they are analyzing people, and therefore torturing and killing them, with the scrutinizers to create digital copies of them, like some kind of infomorphs, to probably integrate them into their simulations of which we have found images. The scrutinizers are therefore probably some kind of giant transneural burning scanners. I think this crisis is just the beginning and the Drifters are just preparing for a bigger offensive. Me and the other capsuleers present on the site failed to destroy the Dreamer but the Drifters withdrew from the system. Nein is now safe again. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Minate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_minate/32/496223_2.png) [@Michael\_Minate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Minate)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-cluster-wide-drifter-crisis-and-its-consequences/475494/44 "2025-02-08T22:01:38Z")
I retrieved two simulated baseliners, I will give one to RSS and keep the other one for further study. I think the empires’ intelligence agencies will be interested in them. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Minate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_minate/32/496223_2.png) [@Michael\_Minate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Minate)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-cluster-wide-drifter-crisis-and-its-consequences/475494/45 "2025-02-09T01:02:44Z")
It has been reported that the Vigilant Dreamer in the Tash-Murkon system has been destroyed. This is the first case of a Dreamer being destroyed since the start of the crisis. According to the capsuleer Rimtas Juokas, the wreckage of the Dreamer appears to have contained a copy of “α Spectral Vision Capture” as well as a “Tekton Forked Packet” and a “Modified Sleeper Corpse”. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/4/8/64848bca2b75c875f71dcbec34f07f593eec7c04.png) My source for this image of Juokas’s message is Velln Moonshatter. ![tekton mind](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/e/b/3ebe337d5bde4ff5743e8fe5b2ac5e16fa9b0cee.png) ![sleeper](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/6/8/168e1f089060ad499a8e804b4375163df652d756.png) My source for the analysis of these objects is also Moonshatter, who seems to have had it from Juokas too. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/8/4/084729c1f173d2d36c59bbd4f3cd0959a4009039.jpeg) (by Walter Islands) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/8/7/987d6675bf2f7a3121cdce465707bf91a7b1ba5b.jpeg) (by Velln Moonshatter) According to Moonshatter, a Drifter officer named “Tisiphone Tyrannos” arrived on the scene after the battle. The wreckage of their ship contained a spectral vision. The wreck did not contain any “officer” type modules. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Minate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_minate/32/496223_2.png) [@Michael\_Minate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Minate)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-cluster-wide-drifter-crisis-and-its-consequences/475494/46 "2025-02-09T01:09:53Z")
It is likely that intelligence agencies will be interested in the forked packet and the corpse and will want to obtain them as well. ---
**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-cluster-wide-drifter-crisis-and-its-consequences/475494/47 "2025-02-09T20:12:20Z")
Simulated people ? But… why ? if the Drifters are trying to build some kind of Synthia-equivalent, I might have to take a lie down in a darkened room to recover my sanity. ---
**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-cluster-wide-drifter-crisis-and-its-consequences/475494/48 "2025-02-11T06:43:26Z")
It appears that the… Republic Security Service, and the… Caldari House of Records, purchase these “simulated baseliners”. I have no information on who in Gallente or Amarr space would purchase these. And no information as to why anyone is purchasing them. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Minate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_minate/32/496223_2.png) [@Michael\_Minate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Minate)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-cluster-wide-drifter-crisis-and-its-consequences/475494/49 "2025-02-11T11:37:17Z")
New spectral vision captures have been found. “ε Spectral Vision Capture” ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/8/2/d8276ff074f81ede6c6ee6059d80f1ddb4907acc.jpeg) “ζ Spectral Vision Capture” ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/3/9/33971e79b66a22a8eea84e99c22803af6e2fb7aa.jpeg) ε seems to be the second half of β, this is what it looks like if we put the two together. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/c/9/fc9f6cb68f82dbe826191a6397d98c6fc73d73ca.jpeg) Drifters going planetside to directly attack a city. Here is the complete picture bringing together γ and ζ. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/1/e/f1ebf6966054c0ac464d02fd5492a3347f71057a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Minate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_minate/32/496223_2.png) [@Michael\_Minate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Minate)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-cluster-wide-drifter-crisis-and-its-consequences/475494/50 "2025-02-11T15:29:28Z")
Another capture has been found, it is quite strange and disturbing. Edit: I suspect that this capture represents simulated baseliners who are suffering from having died in a horrible way and then being trapped in virtualities. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/e/c/feceb60b352429c3f625bf2a50d7bdc48e101289.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-cluster-wide-drifter-crisis-and-its-consequences/475494/51 "2025-02-11T21:12:17Z")
I’m getting a bit of an “It’s not genocide if you faithfully copy most of the people you slaughter,” feel from all this. Maybe they think of this as an uplift, even-- elevating all us poor primitives to a proper, civilized existence. ---
**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-cluster-wide-drifter-crisis-and-its-consequences/475494/52 "2025-02-11T21:26:49Z")
Or it’s a “See how _you_ enjoy being a disembodied consciousness within a virtual environment, ha!” scheme. Or, you know, horrors beyond comprehension. ---
**Author:** ![Innocent\_Mind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/innocent_mind/32/480932_2.png) [@Innocent\_Mind](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Innocent_Mind)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-cluster-wide-drifter-crisis-and-its-consequences/475494/53 "2025-02-13T13:54:21Z")
I was thinking. Maybe the radiation isn’t for scientific reasons. Maybe its how they do the super deep, tripple replication, people copying. Radiation in sensitive sensors isn’t a new thing. ---
**Author:** ![Komi\_Valentine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/komi_valentine/32/502956_2.png) [@Komi\_Valentine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Komi_Valentine)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-cluster-wide-drifter-crisis-and-its-consequences/475494/54 "2025-02-13T16:20:07Z")
> [@Michael\_Minate](#): > > After hacking an array, I retrieved what appears to be a simulated baseliner. > ![Capture d’écran (2529)](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/6/3/863bef089b5dd5055f5155e14257e42c802871ac.png) > I think this is proof that they are analyzing people, and therefore torturing and killing them, with the scrutinizers to create digital copies of them, like some kind of infomorphs, to probably integrate them into their simulations of which we have found images. This is really concerning. Thank you for your analysis. Is the subject still under your supervision? ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Minate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_minate/32/496223_2.png) [@Michael\_Minate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Minate)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-cluster-wide-drifter-crisis-and-its-consequences/475494/55 "2025-02-13T20:14:26Z")
You’re welcome. The subject is indeed still under the supervision of a scientific team that I lead. ---
**Author:** ![EMPstrike](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/empstrike/32/450656_2.png) [@EMPstrike](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/EMPstrike)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2025, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-cluster-wide-drifter-crisis-and-its-consequences/475494/56 "2025-02-15T17:32:22Z")
Intercepted communications from the ongoing crisis in Ruerrotta ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/0/a/c0afd6e95f78ac63dd4e79176230aaf38d40dd20.jpeg) I have a second one but am restricted to 1 image ---
**Author:** ![EMPstrike](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/empstrike/32/450656_2.png) [@EMPstrike](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/EMPstrike)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2025, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-cluster-wide-drifter-crisis-and-its-consequences/475494/57 "2025-02-15T17:32:57Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/c/f/7cfa7d8ca78b711cdc963fd6510d3717114cdda6.jpeg) Actually i reckon these are recovered data recordings rather than intercepted communications so they may be pretty old When i googled the page it put me in the middle of the thread so i hadnt seen these were already posted, my bad ---
**Author:** ![Komi\_Valentine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/komi_valentine/32/502956_2.png) [@Komi\_Valentine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Komi_Valentine)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 1:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-cluster-wide-drifter-crisis-and-its-consequences/475494/58 "2025-02-18T01:41:28Z")
> [@Michael\_Minate](#): > > It seems that α actually shows Matar’s Great Caravanserai. Members of my corporation have discovered very similar data fragments in Molden Heath today that seem to depict the Great Caravanserai. What is interesting to me is that the settlements surrounding this place seem to be depicted with less detail than the rest of the capture. And there is this recurring symbol that looks like a chain of thorns. I hope the Republic Fleet is taking this potential threat very seriously and a lot of sensor arrays around Pator will be on high alert constantly. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Minate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_minate/32/496223_2.png) [@Michael\_Minate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Minate)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-cluster-wide-drifter-crisis-and-its-consequences/475494/59 "2025-02-18T12:00:25Z")
I hope so too. I guess the onset of the crisis and therefore the proof that the Drifters are a serious threat pushed them to secure Pator well. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Minate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_minate/32/496223_2.png) [@Michael\_Minate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Minate)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-cluster-wide-drifter-crisis-and-its-consequences/475494/60 "2025-02-18T12:15:14Z")
New spectral vision captures have been found. “η Spectral Vision Capture” ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/6/0/c604235691fc40dd8428726ebbd76c3aef01a532.jpeg) “θ Spectral Vision Capture” ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/6/4/864f5ea1e75fd06cd510cfac6eb44d3add865209.jpeg) “ι Spectral Vision Capture” ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/b/a/6ba0b912145d1401acf061d58073e46cace34ffd.jpeg) It looks like ι is the second half of α. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/1/1/4119836d453d2b3d568addb2d633b308fe799407.jpeg) η seems to represent Jita 4-4. I’m having trouble finding what θ could represent. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-cluster-wide-drifter-crisis-and-its-consequences/475494.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-cluster-wide-drifter-crisis-and-its-consequences/475494.md?page=4)