# The consequences of 'Trig space'? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 16, 2018, 12:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993 "2018-04-16T00:51:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/224 "2018-04-26T11:04:52Z")
> [@March\_rabbit](#): > > Show me please video of you doing Serpentis Blockage lvl4. I would like to know how do you deal with all sensor dampening in there in “pvp boat”. > > For my knowledge people do such missions in snipe ships or in marauders. I would not call this “pvp boat” for obvious reasons. I run it in a golem but i don’t use bastion, i just kill the damps beforehand, you’re confusing “efficiently run” with “run” because it CAN be done in a PvP boat, its just less efficient, but less efficient doesn’t mean it can’t be done ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/225 "2018-04-26T11:14:38Z")
Well… Golem without bastion is not really “pvp boat” if i’m not mistaken. But yeah, i see your point. However in this particular case (abyssall space or how it’s called?) you cannot just “run PVE content”. You have pretty limited time do to it. So you need to do it as efficiently as possible (and to reduce possibility for PVP on the way out too). ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/226 "2018-04-26T11:23:19Z")
> [@March\_rabbit](#): > > Well… Golem without bastion is not really “pvp boat” if i’m not mistaken. > > But yeah, i see your point. > > However in this particular case (abyssall space or how it’s called?) you cannot just “run PVE content”. You have pretty limited time do to it. So you need to do it as efficiently as possible (and to reduce possibility for PVP on the way out too). I doubt it will take people long to game the system, they already get to pick the weather effect inside the pocket so they are already going to be fit to best take advantage of that ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/227 "2018-04-26T11:47:23Z")
> [@Dantelion\_Shinoni](#): > > And the beauty of it is that we can make it so each sector drops close to the same value, just that the nature of those drops would differ. I dont see how that is possible. Much simpler just for everyone to be able to run the same content, wherever they want, at their own risk. Let players choose themselves. The market will regulate itself, regardless. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/228 "2018-04-26T11:56:46Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Let players choose themselves. Why are you still spewing the same copypasta you were spewing 100 posts ago about a non-existing issue? 😂😂😂 Change cds pls ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/229 "2018-04-26T12:01:10Z")
Let people run the filaments to their full potential wherever they want. If someone wants to do so in NS, fine. If someone wants to do so in HS, fine. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/230 "2018-04-26T12:08:12Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > Why are you still spewing the same copypasta And why are you avoiding my super simple interrogation? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/231 "2018-04-26T12:42:49Z")
You just asked yourself your own question. * * * There is no reason why the Trig pockets should not be universal. Where people do them, wil depend on them. The rewards from the pockets will disseminate through all the EVE markets. If they are sector exclusive, or rewards are higher in another sector, that just restricts player access. It will invariably lead to Player NS becoming even richer and dominating the plasmutid/BP market. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/232 "2018-04-26T12:55:30Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > You just asked yourself your own question. What? > Insert copypasta here ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/233 "2018-04-26T13:24:47Z")
The way I understand it, the Abyssal Pockets can only be accessed with Filaments that can be activated anywhere at anytime, provided the Pilot isn’t flagged. The 1st level Abyssal Filament is a random drop in Relic Hacking sites. There’s 5 level’s of Abyssal Pockets and the Filaments for those will be random drops within the Abyssal Pockets. So access to the various levels of Abyssal Pockets is determined by the type of Filament the Pilot has, not by the system security level. So basically that’s it, doesn’t matter which type of Filament you have or where you activate it, the actual risk is surviving and completing the pockets before the 15 minute timer expires. Anyway, I agree with Salvos Rhoska. ---
**Author:** ![Dantelion\_Shinoni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dantelion_shinoni/32/383315_2.png) [@Dantelion\_Shinoni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dantelion_Shinoni)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/234 "2018-04-26T13:45:17Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > So access to the various levels of Abyssal Pockets is determined by the type of Filament the Pilot has, not by the system security level. So basically that’s it, Not sure about that, mate. They hinted multiple times during both the panels and the roundtables that they are still figuring and discussing some stuffs, the Suspect Timer for example. Content and rewards of the pocket could very well be dependent on security level. It will be their decision, but it is a decision they **can** take. Plus, again, you are fooling yourself if you think the challenge will be just surviving the 15 mins inside the pockets. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/235 "2018-04-26T13:53:13Z")
> [@Dantelion\_Shinoni](#): > > Plus, again, you are fooling yourself if you think the challenge will be just surviving the 15 mins inside the pockets. Gonna disagree with you on that, especially since the Eve Universe is very big with a lot of empty systems in it. But hey, go ahead and keep singing that old ‘Gank’ song, somebody’s gotta do it. ---
**Author:** ![Dantelion\_Shinoni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dantelion_shinoni/32/383315_2.png) [@Dantelion\_Shinoni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dantelion_Shinoni)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/236 "2018-04-26T13:56:52Z")
I foresee plenty of wrecks in your future. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/237 "2018-04-26T13:58:16Z")
I’ve been playing this game for a long time, I know how to survive. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/238 "2018-04-26T14:32:03Z")
I foresee more wrecks in Abyssal space than I do on the beacons in high-sec. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/239 "2018-04-26T14:46:21Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > Why are you still spewing the same copypasta you were spewing 100 posts ago about a non-existing issue? 😂😂😂 I guess he took my advice seriously or simply continues the same behaviour he showcased earlier… or maybe both: > [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > I’m not sure if every casual visitor to this thread will see your suggestion in the “clutter”, perhaps you should repeat it like a few dozen times again just to be sure. 😉 What have I’ve unleashed! 😱 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Prt\_Scr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/prt_scr/32/29012_2.png) [@Prt\_Scr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Prt_Scr)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/240 "2018-04-26T21:11:06Z")
If ccp want to retain more players they should make the new solo PVE content ONLY available in high sec as that is where most of the player base is, and they mostly seem to do PVE. 🙂 It is also more dangerous to run them there rather then some deep null sec pocket with intel channels and home defense fleets ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/241 "2018-04-27T11:01:20Z")
You are a goddamn broken record. ---
**Author:** ![Crash\_888](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/crash_888/32/357008_2.png) [@Crash\_888](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Crash_888)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/242 "2018-04-27T16:06:16Z")
The fact the sec status problem even exists and that they still didn’t have an answer at the roundtable, says that this was hurriedly thought of recently. You can bet any money the original idea was to open the filiment from via menu inside the station until a CSM slapped some sense into them. ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 12:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/243 "2018-04-28T00:10:45Z")
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