# The consequences of 'Trig space'? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 16, 2018, 12:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993 "2018-04-16T00:51:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Jenn\_aSide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jenn_aside/32/384682_2.png) [@Jenn\_aSide](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jenn_aSide)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/244 "2018-04-29T08:51:48Z")
The biggest consequence of Trig space is one that no one is talking about. The mutaplasmid things rely on RNG. **Humans can’t handle the idea of RNG** and try to ‘quantify’ everything. So just like how every other week there is a thread in the PVE forum about how “CCP must have nerfed something because I usually get X amount of escalations/good loot drops etc per week and this week I didn’t get that many!!!”, there will be thread after thread after thread HERE about how ‘something’ must have changed because of ccp stealth action. “CCP stealth nerfed Plasmids because last month I had a successful roll once out of every 3 times I used them on tech 2 mods and now I’m getting 1 out of 5 with the rest being junk…, it’s basically a cash grab to get people to buy more plex!!!” Everyone, get your [Picard facepalm memes](https://www.google.com/search?q=picard+facepalm&rlz=1C1MKDC_enUS771US771&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiw5oyzjd_aAhWK0YMKHXF0DzkQsAQIKA&biw=1094&bih=484) ready, you’re going to need them… ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/245 "2018-04-29T09:06:51Z")
> [@Jenn\_aSide](#): > > Humans can’t handle the idea of RNG and try to ‘quantify’ everything. Citation needed. The RNG % is a quantity. It is quantifiable. > [@Jenn\_aSide](#): > > The biggest consequence of Trig space is one that no one is talking about. Yeah. Its really not the biggest consequence. Nobody is talking about it, except you, cos its not a “thing”. If you think it is, maybe you need a break from forums/reddit. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/246 "2018-04-29T10:37:16Z")
We welcome out new RNG overlords. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/247 "2018-04-29T10:46:27Z")
Meh, there is a lot of RNG in EVE already. From missed/critical hits, to drugs, to overheat damage to parallel modules, to EWAR, to missions/escalations/site/WH spawns, to Officer spawns, to spawn point after gating, to loot/wreck drops etc. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/248 "2018-04-29T14:30:55Z")
Sure, but all of them do not allow you to just reroll indefinitely for ISK. Also the outcome is not all or nothing, but gives some variety in a more skill based game. Invention has a skill part, and single “rolls” do not matter, because you play the game of average outcome, which is also clearly defined. ECM is probably the closest to the new slot machine, but do you see people like it? ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/249 "2018-04-29T15:09:00Z")
Well… If i’m not mistaken mutating you lose module. So it’s not “just reroll indefinitely”. Plus you might need to collect “mutagens” (i hope it’s not just sold by NPC?). Skills - yes, here i agree. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/250 "2018-04-29T15:20:12Z")
> [@March\_rabbit](#): > > So it’s not “just reroll indefinitely”. It is, buy a new one, try again. Just a matter of ISK. ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/251 "2018-04-29T15:22:03Z")
… until there is not any on market? It’s pretty similar to buying expenditions off your alliance mates. I used to do it back in 2011-2012. One could say that i had it “reroll it indefinitely”. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/252 "2018-04-29T15:40:59Z")
T2 module manufacturers must be salivating over all this… ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/253 "2018-04-29T16:07:47Z")
Player NS is all over this. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/254 "2018-04-29T21:48:11Z")
So you can run escalations while sitting docked in Jita, one every couple of seconds, without any skill requirement, just repeat the same clicks over and over waiting for the jackpot? ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/255 "2018-04-29T22:22:35Z")
Do CCP provide you with modules and mutagens right in Jita? ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 4:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/256 "2018-04-30T04:13:36Z")
My point was not about the supply, but the usage. We will see how much mutagens are supplied to the market. The amount will for sure be magnitudes higher than escalation bookmarks traded, if you still want to compare these two things. I would be happy if mutagens would be as rare as escalations. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2018, 4:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-consequences-of-trig-space/69993/257 "2018-07-29T04:13:43Z")
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