# The cost of suicide ganking is too low **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 17, 2017, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-cost-of-suicide-ganking-is-too-low/40033 "2017-11-17T16:12:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 511
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-cost-of-suicide-ganking-is-too-low/40033/511 "2017-11-23T22:31:41Z")
And now back to our scheduled programming… or at least a related topic. Concord kills are a fairly good indicator of the level of suicide ganking, the data being recorded by zkill. A quick look at the numbers reveals that in August of this year Concord killed less people than they have in any month since the killboard data was consolidated in 2013. Suicide gankers are a very very large percentage of those kills, that Concord kills hit an all time low recently and are still in that region is a very strong indicator that suicide ganking is in decline. The following post in another thread expands on this decline using additional data. > [@Any theories on why so many people have quit over the last 2 years?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/any-theories-on-why-so-many-people-have-quit-over-the-last-2-years/15537/426): > > Actually, there are two aspects to this: CONCORD kill graph reflects an increase the number of ships required to gank effectively Change in target selection as a result of (1); and Gank losses in highsec are down, more than the PCU trend. Here is the graph of Barge loss in highsec since 1 January 2014, until today: That is from all causes (ie. ganking, wardecs, NPC, duels). Pulling the ganking out alone (not graphed separately, only summarised in dataframe form), the shape matche… Which begs the question, if suicide ganking is so cheap, why aren’t more people doing it? Is it because it’s not as easy as the OP would have us believe? Is it something else entirely? Suddenly, graphporn. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/9/4984aa2a19854086edea6825dbe7cf1a12cd7d45.png) --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-cost-of-suicide-ganking-is-too-low/40033)._