# The CSM 13 Winter Summit Minutes are out

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**Tags:** csm\
**Created:** [October 2, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-csm-13-winter-summit-minutes-are-out/110726 "2018-10-02T20:37:07Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-csm-13-winter-summit-minutes-are-out/110726/1219 "2018-10-06T17:54:47Z")

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> [@Another lie spread by the haters](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/another-lie-spread-by-the-haters/111504/1):
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> It’s a propaganda piece meant to influence people.

Hopefully against the GSM.

I don’t see a semantic difference between “proposes immediate removal” and “would justify immediate removing”. Care to enlighten me?

Furthermore, CCP is not exactly known for listening to users, taking consequences for developments into account or thinking things through. Everything is possible.

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