# The CSM 13 Winter Summit Minutes are out **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** csm\ **Created:** [October 2, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-csm-13-winter-summit-minutes-are-out/110726 "2018-10-02T20:37:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 3011
**Author:** ![Proteus\_Onzo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/proteus_onzo/32/100121_2.png) [@Proteus\_Onzo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Proteus_Onzo)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-csm-13-winter-summit-minutes-are-out/110726/3011 "2018-10-15T16:14:37Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > I agree that the Social Corp idea, in all its various forms, is intended to allow groups of high-sec PvErs to have their own corporate structure (not ‘structures in space’) around which to form social bonds and group identity without suffering war declarations through CONCORD, Further, I agree that the intention to avoid war declarations is rooted in the theory that this will reduce attrition and promote retention, yes. Good. Agreed. Its intended for HS small groups or solo players to have Corp identity, without being wardecced. Nothing more, nothing less. > [@Arrendis](#): > > The conclusion that must then be drawn is that without a specific _need_ for these restrictions to be placed on social corps, they should not be. Social Corps will be a new mechanic, and should serve the purpose it is intended for, to which you agreed above. Its not for Suicide Gankers to form a nondeccable Social Corp they can scout, gate sit, bump, suicide gank and retrieve loot in. Its not for LS/NS/WH, where wardecs dont matter. > [@Arrendis](#): > > Similarly, the ability to operate beyond HS is not part of the specific intention of social corps. Agreed. It is not intended for Social Corps to operate beyond HS, or beyond the purview of PvE. Glad we agree. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-csm-13-winter-summit-minutes-are-out/110726)._