# The CSM 13 Winter Summit Minutes are out

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**Created:** [October 2, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-csm-13-winter-summit-minutes-are-out/110726 "2018-10-02T20:37:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Proteus\_Onzo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/proteus_onzo/32/100121_2.png) [@Proteus\_Onzo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Proteus_Onzo)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2018, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-csm-13-winter-summit-minutes-are-out/110726/3067 "2018-10-16T07:33:24Z")

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> [@Arrendis](#):
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> _Any_ system can be gamed. Other than trying to curb the worst-case scenarios, you can’t really design for ‘how do we keep people from gaming this system?’

Which is exactly why the Social Corp idea needs restrictions like I listed earlier, or it will be gamed and abused in ways it is not intended to be.

As to the NPE idea, it should always be optional to participate in. They should not be forced to jump through hoops to play EVE if they dont want to. If they want to do it, fine. If they dont, also fine. Some people do tutorials, read instructions etc. Some dont and want to jump right in.

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