# The CSM 13 Winter Summit Minutes are out

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**Created:** [October 2, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-csm-13-winter-summit-minutes-are-out/110726 "2018-10-02T20:37:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Litsea\_Reticulata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/litsea_reticulata/32/328016_2.png) [@Litsea\_Reticulata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Litsea_Reticulata)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 3:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-csm-13-winter-summit-minutes-are-out/110726/450 "2018-10-04T03:02:33Z")

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Hello Again Steve,

You might remember me from last CSM Summit Notes…

> [@Dev blog: CSM Winter Summit Minutes & changes to election process](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/dev-blog-csm-winter-summit-minutes-changes-to-election-process/56136/371):
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> Steve, I love what you do on the CSM and how you are trying to flesh out a mechanic here that is better than what currently exists. I think what you are talking about is experiencing a lot of friction because of the additional ‘baggage’ your idea has. That is not to say it has no merit, only that increased complication will always create increased resistance. I hope people reading this see beyond the discussion of implementation specifics and look at what the desired end result is. This i…

Still waiting for CCP do “DO” something or will wardec mechanic changes be deferred again and remain a contentious issue next year?

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