# The CSM 13 Winter Summit Minutes are out

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**Created:** [October 2, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-csm-13-winter-summit-minutes-are-out/110726 "2018-10-02T20:37:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Zircon\_Dasher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zircon_dasher/32/36736_2.png) [@Zircon\_Dasher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zircon_Dasher)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-csm-13-winter-summit-minutes-are-out/110726/674 "2018-10-04T19:01:12Z")

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> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#):
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> I do think the numbers are still bad enough to justify turning wars off

Hmm. Didn’t you say that turning off wars for 6mo until they can get fixed was mere hyperbole? [CSM 13 - High Sec Issues/Suggestions/Ideas - #371 by Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-13-high-sec-issues-suggestions-ideas/84409/371)?

Or are you being hyperbolic again?

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