# The CSM 13 Winter Summit Minutes are out

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**Category:** Dev Blogs\
**Tags:** csm\
**Created:** [October 2, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-csm-13-winter-summit-minutes-are-out/110726 "2018-10-02T20:37:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-csm-13-winter-summit-minutes-are-out/110726/716 "2018-10-05T07:01:44Z")

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> [@Tipa\_Riot](#):
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> Suspect is not important, I was just talking about a potential start of the new war mechanic. The key points are:
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> - shooting a structure starts the war
> - the war is broadcasted and public
> - it lasts until the structure attack cycle is over
> - everybody can join the defending side

Sounds familiar…

> [@CSM 13 - High Sec Issues/Suggestions/Ideas](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/csm-13-high-sec-issues-suggestions-ideas/84409/249):
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> Different matters, but the same point: Marmite 1 has 1 active wardec, Marmite 2 has 1 active wardec, Marmite 217 has 1 active wardec… Instead of wardec spam you would get wardec corp spam. The reason why CCP is reluctant to tackle wardecs it’s because the only place where a nerf would be effective would be on the target corp -once wardecced, wardec cooldown -but then some would wardec their main corp A with alt corp B to give main corp A inmunity to all other wardecs. What else would l do? If …

> [@Structure wardecs (a proposal)](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/structure-wardecs-a-proposal/98873):
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> This already was suggested some weeks ago and got some positive feedback, so here I come with a complete proposal. TL;DR: remove non-mutual corporation-wide wardecs and enable wardecs on individual structures for a reduced fee. Attackers will get suspect flag while they shoot at the structure so they can be shot by anyone willing to defend the structure. Anyone attacking the attackers will get fleet aggro so attackers can shoot it back. Structures under attack will be advertised gamewide to all…

CCP should ask **WHY** wardecs exist. Because if they exist to prevent people from playing, that’s rubbish. If they exist to increase PvP, that’s not happening and won’t happen. If they exist to remove HS structures… KISS!

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