# The Dantelion Plan

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-dantelion-plan/99845>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [August 22, 2018, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-dantelion-plan/99845 "2018-08-22T11:29:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
**Page:** 11

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-dantelion-plan/99845/219 "2018-08-29T13:48:46Z")

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> [@Whitehound](#):
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> You do reply to him as well. Please don’t say things like “you’re nothing to me” when you reply to somebody. Instead, choose not to reply.

A lot of the time I was not replying to his bait posts, but would reply when he said things in a more reasonable way. I am here to discuss and develop ideas after all, it is often highly amusing to me to see him do the bait troll posts which I ignore, then he would talk reasonably and I would then respond and then in comes the insults and bait trolling, he is pretty one dimensional and is focussed on his Forum status.

Since he decided to do this petition I went back on a large sample of his posting and have formulated a document for the GM giving examples of his bait posting and stuff, in fact it surprised me just how much of a one trick pony he is.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-dantelion-plan/99845/220 "2018-08-29T13:50:10Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> he talk reasonably and I then respond and then in comes the insults and bait trolling

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> he is pretty one dimensional and is focussed on his Forum status.

🤔  
mhmm  
yes, tell us more

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-dantelion-plan/99845/221 "2018-08-29T13:51:19Z")

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> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#):
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> what’s the term… hypocrisy? 😉

Try “none of your business”.

You better see that you get along with @Lugburz. You have your own act to clean up. 😉

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-dantelion-plan/99845/222 "2018-08-29T14:04:38Z")

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Ive only responded in kind to doms toxicity tbvh, he doesnt appear to have any valid statements and he also does a lot of uturns and ducking.  
And then attempts to pass it off as sarcasm or a joke…  
Joke is… pretty much dom.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-dantelion-plan/99845/223 "2018-08-29T14:10:52Z")

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> [@Lugburz](#):
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> Ive only responded in kind to doms toxicity tbvh, he doesnt appear to have any valid statements and he also does a lot of uturns and ducking.  
> And then attempts to pass it off as sarcasm or a joke…  
> Joke is… pretty much dom.

Very much this.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-dantelion-plan/99845/224 "2018-08-29T15:25:18Z")

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look at the trolls uniting

what’s next? safety in highsec? 😂

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**Author:** ![Oreb\_Wing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oreb_wing/32/170827_2.png) [@Oreb\_Wing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oreb_Wing)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-dantelion-plan/99845/225 "2018-08-29T15:51:28Z")

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I keep coming here for an update, but all I see is this slap fight

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**Author:** ![Dantelion\_Shinoni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dantelion_shinoni/32/383315_2.png) [@Dantelion\_Shinoni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dantelion_Shinoni)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-dantelion-plan/99845/226 "2018-08-29T17:13:37Z")

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Real life has been getting real.

I will get it done by tomorrow, though.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-dantelion-plan/99845/227 "2018-08-29T19:59:09Z")

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Faction Warfare is not something I have any interest in, but will be interested in your nullsec ideas.

Be very aware that the Goons are a step above everyone else, they earned this through sheer hard work, however their structure and organisation means that they are often able to leverage any changes to their advantage. Take for example the Rorqual changes which then went through two nerf cycles, people are still playing catch up

If you limit resources based on the true sec system then you will hamstring others in terms of even attempting to compete. One of the most vibrant periods of nullsec was when the true sec effect was reduced and there was multiple small groups making the best of poor systems with upgraded IHUB’s. Building in a slow down in rats and resource generation in heavily utilised areas is one thing you could do, but then what is the value of good space and those big entities spread out and squeeze out others. It is going to be messy.

You could say that the current situation of projecting power with Titans and Keepstars is already set and in one way watching this develop to the end game as such would be interesting and would be a courageous step by CCP, One often asks what would you do in terms of a game where a group has over arching dominance. If we are in a true sandbox that would be interesting gameplay. I think conceptually I would let go of the balance and let it happen, will be a fun ride and I would know that the Goons actually earnt this win.

Were this to happen then a Drifter invasion and player star gates could be used to re-set the server in an interesting way. So don’t get too scared of letting the people who earn it win. I have already accepted that the Goons are going to win nullsec as it stands, which is kind of why I wanted to see hisec become more interesting and not a safe zone, but that is not going to happen sadly.

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**Author:** ![JUSTIFIED\_ARROGANCE](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/justified_arrogance/32/263131_2.png) [@JUSTIFIED\_ARROGANCE](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JUSTIFIED_ARROGANCE)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-dantelion-plan/99845/228 "2018-08-29T22:52:20Z")

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SUMMARY: Dantelion Shinoni wants more blog followers and has ideas that CCP wont even bother spending the energy required to laugh at them.

OMG, i just realized it says: The Dantelion Plan - **_Introduction !!!_**

😱

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 7:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-dantelion-plan/99845/229 "2018-08-30T07:07:46Z")

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I’m not seeing much substance yet.  
Just rhetoric and ideology.

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Falcon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_falcon/32/143229_2.png) [@CCP\_Falcon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Falcon)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-dantelion-plan/99845/230 "2018-08-30T09:24:21Z")

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Falcon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_falcon/32/143229_2.png) [@CCP\_Falcon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Falcon)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-dantelion-plan/99845/231 "2018-08-30T09:24:48Z")

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This thread has gone on long enough, and has veered wildly off topic and into personal attacks and trolling.

It’s now closed.

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