# "The Deathless" has been together since 2016 and owns 'The Agency'

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**Created:** [May 8, 2022, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-deathless-has-been-together-since-2016-and-owns-the-agency/361604 "2022-05-08T01:16:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ashterothi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashterothi/32/459299_2.png) [@Ashterothi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashterothi)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-deathless-has-been-together-since-2016-and-owns-the-agency/361604/1 "2022-05-08T01:16:51Z")

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The Interruption at Fanfest introduced us to a group known as “The Deathless”.

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/d/8/dd886b711e5b8b224f25f2384a28f734bec3f018.jpeg "EVE Online | The Scope – "Deathless" Interrupts Concord and Diplomatic Crisis") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN-V1yOOEJg)

From the in game description of the group when selecting a side:

> A shadowy network of smugglers linked to Caldari and Thukker organized crime and mercenary groups has been steadily increasing its reach across New Eden. This ruthless alliance between the likes of the **Intara** , Krullefor, Onikanabo, and **Seykal** is not to be underestimated

The Deathless was reported as an organization in 2016 when connected to the Shadow of the Serpent Event.

> **[CONCORD Confirm Rumors Of Investigation Into Serpentis Fleet Strength](https://universe.eveonline.com/new-eden-news/concord-confirm-rumors-of-investigation-into-serpentis-fleet-strength)**
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> YULAI - CONCORD's Directive Enforcement Department have confirmed investigations into Serpentis fleet capabilities are underway following reports from the Federal Intelligence Office of a military buildup by the renegade corporation. A source within...

> The unusual statement from General Korachi follows unconfirmed reports of a stolen copy of the FIO dossier on the Serpentis military buildup making its way into the hands of an entity known only as “The Deathless”. While being confused as to the exact status of “The Deathless”, these reports allege this identifier was recently used in the hiring of **several mercenary corporations previously active on the planet Chandeille**.

The merc corps that were just active on the planet Chandeille were Intara Direct Action, the Ostrakon Agency, and the Seykal Expeditionary Group

> **[Mercenary Corporations Withdraw from Chandeille as Jin-Mei Civil Conflict...](https://universe.eveonline.com/new-eden-news/mercenary-corporations-withdraw-from-chandeille-as-jin-mei-civil-conflict-enters-ceasefire-following-capsuleer-aid-efforts)**
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> Chandeille (Lirsautton V) - The decades long civil conflict on the Jin-Mei homeworld of Chandeille, the fifth planet of the Lirsautton system, has entered an uneasy peace following a ceasefire declaration by Sang Do overlord houses in the resource...

> Private military forces from **Intara Direct Action** , the **Ostrakon Agency** , and the **Seykal Expeditionary Group** have disengaged in the last week, citing the presence of Federation covert and special forces as cause for activating “sovereign non-compete” clauses in their contracts.

It would appear as if the Peacock delivered FIO intelligence to the Deathless, as referred to by Esri Hakuzosu in Capsule Subsystem Holostorage EH-CN-J44-008

> “Sparks told me he pulled off a job against the Feds that the Black Eagles don’t even know happened.”

Using SCOPEs new Capsuleer Job Brokering Business the Serpentis caches were rooted out and destroyed.

One year later the Deathless, through Intara and Ostrakon Agency bought the SCOPE JBB and transformed it into the Agency we know today.

> **[Scope Network Ownership Formally Divests Capsuleer Job Brokering Business](https://universe.eveonline.com/new-eden-news/scope-network-ownership-formally-divests-capsuleer-job-brokering-business)**
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> ORVOLLE - The Scope Network has announced the formal divestment of its capsuleer job brokering business, as part of a restructuring aimed at focusing on the news and entertainment side of its business, while complying with Gallente Federation and SCC...

> One source, speaking to Impetus reporters via an encrypted identity-masking hologram, provided documents indicating that this consortium includes the Ostrakon Agency and Intara Direct Action private military contracting corporations.

That is why the Deathless can take over the Agency and give us tasks to go after CONCORD. The Deathless OWNS the Agency system!

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**Author:** ![Ashterothi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashterothi/32/459299_2.png) [@Ashterothi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashterothi)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 1:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-deathless-has-been-together-since-2016-and-owns-the-agency/361604/2 "2022-05-08T01:19:26Z")

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My prediction is we are getting a Minmatar-Caldari pirate faction shipline

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 1:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-deathless-has-been-together-since-2016-and-owns-the-agency/361604/3 "2022-05-08T01:32:55Z")

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> [@Ashterothi](#):
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> My prediction is we are getting a Minmatar-Caldari pirate faction shipline

wen they released the spark ships i though to myself  
well those ships suck , i bet some day they will buff them  
so i was kinda rich i bought more than 50% of all the edencon ships in the game  
i had LOTS of frigates , cruisers , battleships  
one day i sold them with fat profit and was so happy because i was a smart dude  
now they are worth a order of magnitude higher  
i was a fool  
now im poor and that is the biggest regret i have so far

just a cautionary tale for the new line of trash/weeb ships if that is true

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**Author:** ![Ashterothi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashterothi/32/459299_2.png) [@Ashterothi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashterothi)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-deathless-has-been-together-since-2016-and-owns-the-agency/361604/4 "2022-05-08T01:51:16Z")

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The Deathless appears to be the individual, possibly the ringleader?

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/c/f/4cf0320dd7f08494b2825627922cae92b92dee81.jpeg "The Scope – First Keepstar Destroyed in Nalvula") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVz4IfjpoS4)

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 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/1/3/613912084b46004de459d2a944b8a886a20620fa.png)

Thanks to Galm Eskola-Fae for this one!

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**Author:** ![Galm\_Eskola-Fae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galm_eskola-fae/32/511580_2.png) [@Galm\_Eskola-Fae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galm_Eskola-Fae)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 2:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-deathless-has-been-together-since-2016-and-owns-the-agency/361604/5 "2022-05-08T02:04:46Z")

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Awesome thread, can’t wait to watch this as more information comes out and this arc develops. Thanks for the shout out as well, glad I could help! It very well could be that this was one individual seen as part of a wider organization _assumed to be_ a single actor at the time.

My personal theory is that there is a core individual The Deathless _and_ potentially a wider organization that acts as The Deathless on his behalf. It’s all the same MO, but helps perpetuate the rumor of the Deathless seeming less like a single man and more like an omnipresent force of nature acting through multiple agents and proxies.

Take this next part with a grain of salt:

I have my own personal theory about them being a warclone, given the Agency and now many of the smuggler organization’s links to former and current warclone organizations. (Though they aren’t exclusively warclone organizations by any means, they certainly employed many during DUST 514.) It also might partially explain their ability to evade identification and easily infiltrate organizations as warclones can swap bodies and baseline much more easily than the capsuleer cloning process due to the lack of plugs for burn scanners and that Sleeper implants use the brain-in-a-box system that lets a persons consciousness transfer to any body with an implant without need for cloning or copying over synapses like capsuleers.

In fact, warclones famously usually only had one option for combat-clone bodies for years with female warclones canonically having to fight in male bodies to streamline the cloning process. Female clones were only rotated into production because of the extreme distress and dysphoria it caused the operator long term. I’m sure now the cloning process has evolved over time to create any customized clone needed for a particular mission or identity. It could let one person act as many, or many people appear to act as one.

I don’t have a lot to base this on for certain, so time will tell. Regardless, can’t wait to see how this unfolds.

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 2:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-deathless-has-been-together-since-2016-and-owns-the-agency/361604/6 "2022-05-08T02:09:09Z")

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“The deathless”, bit of a 15 year old edgelord low creativity name imo. Might as well have gone for “XXXdeathless360XXX”.

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-deathless-has-been-together-since-2016-and-owns-the-agency/361604/7 "2022-05-08T02:35:23Z")

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> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#):
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> “The deathless”, bit of a 15 year old edgelord low creativity name imo. Might as well have gone for “XXXdeathless360XXX”.

apple lossless audio have more definition

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**Author:** ![Ashterothi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashterothi/32/459299_2.png) [@Ashterothi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashterothi)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 5:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-deathless-has-been-together-since-2016-and-owns-the-agency/361604/8 "2022-05-08T05:42:04Z")

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Do we suspect they could be connected to EoM’s infiltration of all those merc corps?

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-deathless-has-been-together-since-2016-and-owns-the-agency/361604/9 "2022-05-08T07:23:02Z")

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I dont care if its deathless or ccp who own agency, they should fix the bugs that make the event task buttons dont work.

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**Author:** ![Khacia\_Fides](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khacia_fides/32/501774_2.png) [@Khacia\_Fides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khacia_Fides)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2022, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-deathless-has-been-together-since-2016-and-owns-the-agency/361604/10 "2022-05-09T16:20:39Z")

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Might be a conincidence but the only new and “fully fleshed out” faction-trailer used to be Minmatar and during fanfest **Caldari** was added… So that would support your hypothesis.

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**Author:** ![Nicholas\_Kondur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicholas_kondur/32/420734_2.png) [@Nicholas\_Kondur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicholas_Kondur)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2022, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-deathless-has-been-together-since-2016-and-owns-the-agency/361604/11 "2022-05-09T17:16:19Z")

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Im curious as to what bonuses it would have. Thanks for the video of the Deathless speech though. Been looking for that.

N. Kondur  
Kybernauts Clade

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**Author:** ![Ashterothi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashterothi/32/459299_2.png) [@Ashterothi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashterothi)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2022, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-deathless-has-been-together-since-2016-and-owns-the-agency/361604/12 "2022-05-09T17:26:46Z")

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I long suggested a smuggler faction based on the Thukker that had old school jams as its ‘cheat’.

We will see how much they listened 😛

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**Author:** ![Ploing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ploing/32/466885_2.png) [@Ploing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ploing)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2022, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-deathless-has-been-together-since-2016-and-owns-the-agency/361604/13 "2022-05-09T18:16:39Z")

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so we get basically 6 year old content. thats impressive!!!

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**Author:** ![Nicholas\_Kondur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicholas_kondur/32/420734_2.png) [@Nicholas\_Kondur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicholas_Kondur)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2022, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-deathless-has-been-together-since-2016-and-owns-the-agency/361604/14 "2022-05-09T18:49:48Z")

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Just watched your video on the Deathless. Impressive work. That gives a lot of insight. And explains that we should join arms against SARO. Heres hoping we eventually get a Sansha arc. They’ve been needing dealt with for a while.

N. Kondur  
Kybernauts Clade

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**Author:** ![Ashterothi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashterothi/32/459299_2.png) [@Ashterothi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashterothi)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-deathless-has-been-together-since-2016-and-owns-the-agency/361604/15 "2022-05-15T19:49:05Z")

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The more I come back to this thread the more I believe this is the best comment.

> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> I dont care if its deathless or ccp who own agency, they should fix the bugs that make the event task buttons dont work.

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**Author:** ![Ashterothi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashterothi/32/459299_2.png) [@Ashterothi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashterothi)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-deathless-has-been-together-since-2016-and-owns-the-agency/361604/16 "2022-05-15T22:10:59Z")

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[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/3/6/736c86c4e92f6ed02137eddc7c95af5e4bc0a2a2.jpeg "Smuggler Story Arc Backstory - 2017-2019 - EVE Universe Show") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqormgl3i1Y)

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-deathless-has-been-together-since-2016-and-owns-the-agency/361604/17 "2022-08-13T22:11:19Z")

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