# The Economy isn't Broken, and Destruction is not Good **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 22, 2020, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-economy-isnt-broken-and-destruction-is-not-good/286457 "2020-12-22T16:05:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-economy-isnt-broken-and-destruction-is-not-good/286457/21 "2020-12-22T18:03:53Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > This is a game, and not real life, so stop trying to make those parallels. You _consistently_ do this. Well, yes. This is a game. I am using words. Words have a meaning. Am I supposed not to be using words? Should I not use words that fit accurately to what I’m talking about? _This_ is your defense now? lol Are you ■■■■■■■ kidding me? 😃 Read again: It’s not a fight. It’s slaughter! 😃 Please show me on the doll the evil word touched you, okay? 😃 Well, anyhow, back to the topic I guess. The Economy isn’t broken. Suicide Ganking needs a buff. Flame away! ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-economy-isnt-broken-and-destruction-is-not-good/286457/22 "2020-12-22T18:08:04Z")
Everyone is a soldier in EVE, Sol. It’s just that some people choose to be _really bad_ ones. Everyone can use weapons, and has the same capacity for violence. Just because you kill someone in a very one-sided engagement, doesn’t mean that there’s nothing that player could’ve done. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-economy-isnt-broken-and-destruction-is-not-good/286457/23 "2020-12-22T18:18:48Z")
Here’s a valid middle ground: The slaughter turns into a fight … … when the cow starts fighting back. Not before. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-economy-isnt-broken-and-destruction-is-not-good/286457/24 "2020-12-22T18:41:59Z")
> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > The missing part of the “massing resources against potential losses” equation is the fact that EVE is **not designed** to encourage _losses_ to occur. Players build wealth to ensure they can withstand loss, but once their wealth-building setup is working, _there is no reason_ to incur loss. It becomes near-pointless to do so ![Captura de Tela 2020-12-22 às 15.38.33](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/6/c62543aa4cc1fb514e257d5b4244640a5dbeaabe.png) ![Captura de Tela 2020-12-22 às 15.38.37](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/2/7293d9b15e0ce814dd0f6e9b19fe54919b216708.png) big reason… its called fun you should try i dont care about the horde of pharaoh dudes who quit eve with trillions in their wallets and no cool story to tell ![Unknown](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/4/b423da13b0bf1a82d79ee63f6fcdfb6b885550e8.png) > [@CrimeWatch and Fleets](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/crimewatch-and-fleets/285143/20): > > just that doing anything that required undocking was generally a bad idea thats sad man ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-economy-isnt-broken-and-destruction-is-not-good/286457/25 "2020-12-22T18:43:05Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > i dont care about the horde of pharaoh dudes who quit eve with trillions in their wallets and no cool story to tell I really wanna fly around with you in lowsec. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-economy-isnt-broken-and-destruction-is-not-good/286457/26 "2020-12-22T18:43:27Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > I really wanna fly around with you in lowsec. 😃 come 😃 you are welcome ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-economy-isnt-broken-and-destruction-is-not-good/286457/27 "2020-12-22T18:44:59Z")
I think I have a long range thrasher somewhere. 50km-ish. I’m Alpha, but it works. I’m in Uedama, -10. Getting there might be a problem without preparation. How far away / where are you? ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-economy-isnt-broken-and-destruction-is-not-good/286457/28 "2020-12-22T18:46:22Z")
arzad 3 jumps from amamake the minmatar was trying to take it yesterday so … ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-economy-isnt-broken-and-destruction-is-not-good/286457/29 "2020-12-22T18:51:07Z")
Fifteen jumps. Gotta pass. I’d never get there in a ship … … and I need to be back in Uedama tomorrow morning. Was worth a try asking you. I’ll look into it… There’s not many like us out there anymore … right? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-economy-isnt-broken-and-destruction-is-not-good/286457/30 "2020-12-22T18:53:25Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > I really wanna fly around with you in lowsec. 😃 Keep away from my man, ■■■■■! I’m actually training a new character specifically because he convinced me to give FW another shot. It’s at about 4M SP right now and subbed for 6 months. When I have time to finally play, I’ll just inject the rest. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-economy-isnt-broken-and-destruction-is-not-good/286457/31 "2020-12-22T18:54:25Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > When I have time to finally play, I’ll just inject the rest. You’re a boring person. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-economy-isnt-broken-and-destruction-is-not-good/286457/32 "2020-12-22T18:55:06Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > You’re a boring person. How so? ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-economy-isnt-broken-and-destruction-is-not-good/286457/33 "2020-12-22T19:10:46Z")
Quite a few reasons actually. One of them is this … and I gotta admit, I really hate this … the treating of EVE like it’s a minigame. Worse, a minigame where you can skip the idea of gaining experience by spending money. _(or ISK, doesn’t matter. the act is what matters.)_ What that means is that, before people could inject skillpoints they’ve spent the time training their player-skills … … while nowadays they can just inject the SP required to fly any ship they want, regardless of their player-skills. Now, I’m not saying you don’t have any player-skills. I’m saying that, when your first and foremost comments about playing center around injecting SP … … then you’re probably not honing your player-skills very well … … and put too much dependency on your SP, which translates into the ships you can fly, etc. … … and you’re definitely not going to enjoy yourself. I don’t even know how many SP I have on my chars. I must have around half a year to a year of unskilled SP accumulated on Solecist … … meaning that I didn’t skill while my sub was running, because I just didn’t give a ■■■■. It was never really worth it remembering, because the accumulation of SP beyond what I need is ludicrous to me. It wasn’t worth remembering that I had to log in to change a skill and it wasn’t worth doing it in the first place. I mean … just … what _rest_ is this you’re even talking about? What is it that’s missing? What _more_ do you even need? Do you honestly believe it’ll increase your enjoyment? What _more_ did you need back when you started? Didn’t you have fun when you started playing this game? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-economy-isnt-broken-and-destruction-is-not-good/286457/34 "2020-12-22T19:14:34Z")
Dude, I literally said I made an alt specifically for FW. I’m not going to be doing anything new on it that I haven’t already done before. There are no player-skills for me to gain at this point, with the exception of some FW meta knowledge I might not be familiar with that I would acquire in my first three days. I like flying AFs, and don’t feel like waiting through months of natural training to reach them on one of my dozen accounts, as I’ve already done _many times_ in the past. Do you really not get it? ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-economy-isnt-broken-and-destruction-is-not-good/286457/35 "2020-12-22T19:22:26Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Do you really not get it? No I don’t! Can you explain it to me? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-economy-isnt-broken-and-destruction-is-not-good/286457/36 "2020-12-22T19:23:00Z")
You got five bucks? Only the first time’s free. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-economy-isnt-broken-and-destruction-is-not-good/286457/37 "2020-12-22T19:24:03Z")
I wouldn’t know how to wire you money anonymously … … or do you accept ISK? ---
**Author:** ![MajorBean](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/majorbean/32/382916_2.png) [@MajorBean](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MajorBean)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-economy-isnt-broken-and-destruction-is-not-good/286457/38 "2020-12-22T19:31:11Z")
> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > The ones who avoid PvP and amass wealth, because PvP is chancy and lossy, but wealth building always gives you more. They imagine that someday they will “do something” with that ‘more’, or maybe they just enjoy having it, but they mostly aren’t PvPing with it. o/ Guilty, I log in + - 1 Hour per day, make + - 13 Billion per month, at a worst case i loose 0.3 - 1 Billion per month when the market changes. There is so little risk in my Gameplay it is funny. I like the shakeups CCP is doing, that is why i re subbed after 4 years. I would love CCP to do some more. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-economy-isnt-broken-and-destruction-is-not-good/286457/39 "2020-12-22T19:32:30Z")
One of the problems with a sandbox is that there’s no real “end goal”, so people just latch onto whatever feels like is “progress” to them. For many, it ends up being isk. But since there’s no “goal” of isk, it just becomes a cycle of “i want more” with no end in sight. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-economy-isnt-broken-and-destruction-is-not-good/286457/40 "2020-12-22T19:32:34Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > I wouldn’t know how to wire you money anonymously … > … or do you accept ISK? ISK, anime girls, or having me come to Uedama and letting me shoot you are all acceptable forms of payment. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-economy-isnt-broken-and-destruction-is-not-good/286457.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-economy-isnt-broken-and-destruction-is-not-good/286457.md?page=3)