# The end is nigh. Gankers a dying breed

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-is-nigh-gankers-a-dying-breed/450362>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [May 26, 2024, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-is-nigh-gankers-a-dying-breed/450362 "2024-05-26T08:20:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2024, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-is-nigh-gankers-a-dying-breed/450362/41 "2024-05-27T17:38:00Z")

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Yah, it says a lot about the competence of antigankers, doesn’t it? This month, we set the alltime record for isk destroyed in Uedama, but meanwhile antigankers who never log in sit in the forums celebrating ‘victory’.

🙄

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**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2024, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-is-nigh-gankers-a-dying-breed/450362/42 "2024-05-27T17:47:12Z")

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I am still waiting for the weekly video footage of saved DSTs, Orcas, Marauders and Freighters. Nobody can tell me that in 2024 _no one_ of those Osprey-Pilots they have present from time to time there can record a video stream. I have once tried it when testing Abyssals and recording a clip - even on mediocre hardware - takes less than 30minutes for configuring the software and basically no prior knowledge.  
We can only guess why such saving-footage doesn’t get promoted regualry.

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**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/515826_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2024, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-is-nigh-gankers-a-dying-breed/450362/43 "2024-05-27T18:26:42Z")

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I am sure that Princess understands that it is not a scam and that is the only issue that matters.

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**Author:** ![Ceema](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ceema/32/381241_2.png) [@Ceema](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ceema)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2024, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-is-nigh-gankers-a-dying-breed/450362/44 "2024-05-27T21:58:38Z")

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It’s what Goonswarm pays me for. It’s not my fault his comments crossed my desk!

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2024, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-is-nigh-gankers-a-dying-breed/450362/45 "2024-05-27T22:18:50Z")

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Goonswarm pays me to hunt down AWOL bees who ran away to Highsec.

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**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2024, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-is-nigh-gankers-a-dying-breed/450362/46 "2024-05-27T22:38:54Z")

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> [@ResonanceOfWar](#):
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> The more interesting question you guys/gals should be asking your self is what will you do about the increased plex cost for alt’s it was 2.5b last month its 3b now and after patch it will prob go to 4b or 4.5b once everyone starts blowing tons of plex on skins and the 30% tax’s ravish the plex price.
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> I laugh CCP does a special “gankers paradice; sub 20 accounts for the price of 5 available for the next 3 days” 🤣

Sounds great, I’m going to make a ton of ISK when it goes up. Might even work an extra day this week and buy the 6000 pack to sell.

Oh, you thought you were going to get sympathy about having to spend more time as a slighly more advanced rat for me hunt in order to plex your accounts? 🤣

More content for me. 😆

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**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-is-nigh-gankers-a-dying-breed/450362/47 "2024-05-28T02:15:00Z")

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I shot down a Goonswarm ganker who was in Catalyst and on his way out. He wasn’t flashy and I lost a Proteus. But it felt that good.

I think Goonswarm has been building a massive High Sec gank fest for many years now. After implanting scouts in all High Sec systems and gathering intel on the frequency and type of ships in the system, Goonswarm should have all of the intel that Goons needs to launch weekend long gank of all High Sec systems.

Sure would be fun. Non-Goonswarm chasing around flashy reds. It would be like the Battle of Endor.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 3:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-is-nigh-gankers-a-dying-breed/450362/48 "2024-05-28T03:00:10Z")

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> [@DrysonBennington](#):
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> it felt that good.

Wow, yah, I bet it really felt good to finally DEFEAT the gankers.

Great job Dryson, you got us.

🙄

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**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-is-nigh-gankers-a-dying-breed/450362/49 "2024-05-28T07:40:51Z")

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> [@Andlaust](#):
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> Oh, you thought you were going to get sympathy about having to spend more time as a slighly more advanced rat for me hunt in order to plex your accounts? 🤣

O I adapt its not about me its about the guys with 20 alt’s who gank and has to somehow pay for all 20.

> [@Andlaust](#):
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> slighly more advanced rat for me hunt

O you are very welcome to try but you will need to bring friends, a lot of them.  
Or maybe I’ll just bring the fight to you.

> [@DrysonBennington](#):
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> I shot down a Goonswarm ganker who was in Catalyst and on his way out. He wasn’t flashy and I lost a Proteus. But it felt that good.

Goonswarm isn’t a high sec group if you want to kill them just to go to them where there is no concord lol.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-is-nigh-gankers-a-dying-breed/450362/50 "2024-05-28T08:05:43Z")

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> [@DrysonBennington](#):
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> I lost a Proteus

Sounds like a song.

You sure do like losing proteus, don’t you @DrysonBennington .

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/8/b/b8b6306f1c44cc1916209637c5c8a967d3631a4d.png)

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-is-nigh-gankers-a-dying-breed/450362/51 "2024-05-28T08:58:55Z")

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Means he is playing the game.

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**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-is-nigh-gankers-a-dying-breed/450362/52 "2024-05-28T09:15:34Z")

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> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> You sure do like losing proteus, don’t you

I’m actually very interested in this Cinderella of CCP’s ships. I have the skills to fit and fly one but have not been able to find a suitable niche for its use. Trawling Google results, it seems that many players regard it as ‘not a good ship’.

I also see their proffered reasoning, but I’m still curious. So, @DrysonBennington, can you give me a reason to hop in and fly one?

Serious request.

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**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-is-nigh-gankers-a-dying-breed/450362/53 "2024-05-28T09:30:02Z")

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Btw if you guys want to hit safety gank their Bowheads full of catalysts just saw them moving 2 of them :]

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-is-nigh-gankers-a-dying-breed/450362/54 "2024-05-28T09:33:39Z")

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Small gang tackle, the extended range from the subsystem enables you to stop people from warping and gives time for your fast tackle to get on them. It has a decent tank and high close range DPS. Perfect ship to leave at zero on the gate with a gang.

> [@ResonanceOfWar](#):
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> Btw if you guys want to hit safety gank their Bowheads full of catalysts just saw them moving 2 of them :]

It sounds so simple, but it is not.

I know two AG players that multi-box to be able to do that, would need both of them on and have all their characters setup to gank. Without them I would have to organise a fleet of people, but then again how many of them would have a dedicated gank character, I have one, but many AG do not.

So while you threw that in as a suggestion, the reality of it all is that it is not going to happen from the AG side at least.

But I often wonder why some of the nullsec alliances that get preyed on by the gankers don’t do it, perhaps asking them would be better?

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**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-is-nigh-gankers-a-dying-breed/450362/55 "2024-05-28T09:34:41Z")

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Sounds like you need to grow your anti-gank alliance, but yea it wont be easy.

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**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/515826_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-is-nigh-gankers-a-dying-breed/450362/56 "2024-05-28T09:34:46Z")

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FYI I have nothing to do with what ever you and Frosty has going on and if you need anything from him then you need to contact him directly via evemail

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-is-nigh-gankers-a-dying-breed/450362/57 "2024-05-28T09:59:27Z")

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Githany has often detailed what they did to try to get people interested, it is terribly difficult to recruit people keen and able to do this, but the issue comes when they realise how difficult it is and how inherently boring it is, because when you organise a fleet and are ready the ganker can just log and all those people you organised to have some fun AG have nothing to do.

They did succeed as the ganker logged, but they had no fun and nothing to show for their efforts.

You have to be like Knowledgeminer in terms of dedication and very few can do that. I can’t! I don’t like him, but I do respect him a great deal, he knows his stuff and is effective and relentless, but there are hardly any with that type of skillset and attitude.

Amusingly the AG alliance I am in is in nullsec., and every so often a couple of the members do some AG, but in reality it is just the one player who multi-boxes all those Ospreys.

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**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-is-nigh-gankers-a-dying-breed/450362/58 "2024-05-28T10:03:28Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Small gang tackle, the extended range from the subsystem enables you to stop people from warping and gives time for your fast tackle to get on them. It has a decent tank and high close range DPS. Perfect ship to leave at zero on the gate with a gang.

Thanks for that, Dracvlad. I will mull it over, but for solo use I imagine the options are limited. Maybe I need to embrace multiboxing, since it seems to be ‘the thing’ presently…

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-is-nigh-gankers-a-dying-breed/450362/59 "2024-05-28T10:07:08Z")

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You can use it as a hunter killer for people running data or relic sites using smart bombs, some people use it in nullsec to take out shuttles and pods with smart bombs, if you want to solo, but it hardly sets the pulse racing.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-is-nigh-gankers-a-dying-breed/450362/60 "2024-05-28T10:19:01Z")

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> [@ResonanceOfWar](#):
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> gank their Bowheads full of catalysts

And how hey gonna do that with their ospreys? They got the combined organisational skills and firepower of a **Potato**.

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