# The end of CO2? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 15, 2017, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-of-co2/24832 "2017-09-15T18:50:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-of-co2/24832/245 "2017-09-23T13:38:13Z")
> [@Faylee\_Freir](#): > > I would imagine that as a community manager, he’s qualified to speak on CCPs behalf? I mean he has before… He did it when there was an uproar about Erotica1 being banned. I guess it’s only when he says something that you agree with is he then a credible source. Projecting again, you are laughable, I repeat as you obviously do not get it, balance issues will be looked at by other people, until CCP Fozzie comes out and says something about the balance issues around it nothing tangible has been said. ---
**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-of-co2/24832/246 "2017-09-23T13:38:35Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Well he effectively did! He did not say, “HTFU”. If you want to go down the splippery path of putting words in a CCP employees mouth, go ahead. People have been banned for it. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-of-co2/24832/247 "2017-09-23T13:38:57Z")
> [@Faylee\_Freir](#): > > He did not say, “HTFU”. If you want to go down the splippery path of putting words in a CCP employees mouth, go ahead. People have been banned for it. Cry more please, a more effective community manager would have not replied to someone using the definition cry babies… ---
**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-of-co2/24832/248 "2017-09-23T13:39:56Z")
How is that projecting? Hahaha. What makes you think that CCP thinks there is a balance issue? Like I said, stuff like what happened is good for the game. ---
**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-of-co2/24832/249 "2017-09-23T13:41:01Z")
No one is crying. I’m simply warning you against putting words in a CCP employees mouth. Hey if you wanna go there, that’s your business. I don’t want any part. Every time you post I have to ask myself why you even play this game. It’s so very clear that you dislike the mechanics and what makes this game tick. Can the game be better, of course! I just find myself trying to protect this game against rupulsive public opinions such as the ones you and others here hold. Like I really don’t mind logging into my old World of Warcraft account and giving you some gold to start you off if you wanted to try that. HTFU ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-of-co2/24832/250 "2017-09-23T13:43:32Z")
> [@Faylee\_Freir](#): > > No one is crying. I’m simply warning you against putting words in a CCP employees mouth. Hey if you wanna go there, that’s your business. I don’t want any part. I am pretty sure you will be flagging these posts like the big girls blouse you are… This is what I said > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Well he effectively did! You cry babies him a heist is a heist no rules broken No one was talking about rules, we were talking about balance, it is a dumb conversation… > [@Faylee\_Freir](#): > > What makes you think that CCP thinks there is a balance issue? Wait and see… ---
**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-of-co2/24832/251 "2017-09-23T13:46:40Z")
When rules are violated I report them. I find t best to keep our community clean. Wait and see… for what? You have insider knowledge that CCP doesn’t like what happened? They intend to make changes? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-of-co2/24832/252 "2017-09-23T13:49:35Z")
> [@Faylee\_Freir](#): > > When rules are violated I report them. I find t best to keep our community clean. A legend in your own mind, when you extrapolate to rules being broken, you are rather sad. What I gave was an opinion, what you suggested was that I was breaking a rule by pretending to be him. > [@Faylee\_Freir](#): > > Wait and see… for what? You have insider knowledge that CCP doesn’t like what happened? They intend to make changes? As I said wait and see. ---
**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-of-co2/24832/253 "2017-09-23T13:49:59Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > As if anyone who is looking at game balance cares what the ‘Community Manager’ thinks about it, > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Your love in with CCP Falcon means nothing he is the community manager. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > He is only the community manager, other people look after game balance, > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Cry more please, a more effective community manager would have not replied to someone using the definition cry babies… So, not only does no one, who cares about game balance at CCP, care about what CCP Falcon thinks, he’s also not an effective (aka good, because not being effective m3ans he’s not doing a good job) Community Manager, and whatever he says in that regard doesn’t matter, because despite being the **official spokesperson** , he doesn’t speak for the company as a whole. Okay. Now to CCP\_Fozzie. Did anyone in here see @CCP_Fozzie even hint at the possibility that he, or anyone at CCP thinks, that this is somehow unbalanced now and bad for the game? ---
**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-of-co2/24832/254 "2017-09-23T13:52:36Z")
How do you get “HTFU” out of what he said? His comment was direct and to the point. I don’t see a shred of personal opinion of flair of sarcasm out of it. If you can’t communicate in a way without demeaning others, then I will have to ask CCP to step in. ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Falcon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_falcon/32/143229_2.png) [@CCP\_Falcon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Falcon)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-of-co2/24832/255 "2017-09-23T14:16:51Z")
This thread has gone so far off topic and into the weeds that it simply isn’t salvageable. CCP’s position on this is simple: - The heist broke no rules, and was a standard defection with the intention to cripple the target alliance, carried out within the game rules using normal game mechanics. This has happened thousands of times before with corporations and alliances in the history of EVE Online, and will happen countless times again. - We do not publicly discuss actions taken against individuals for breaches of our EULA, Terms of Service or other policies. The EVE Online forums are also not the place to discuss warnings, bans or suspensions. Topic closed. ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Falcon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_falcon/32/143229_2.png) [@CCP\_Falcon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Falcon)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-end-of-co2/24832/256 "2017-09-23T14:16:55Z")
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