# The EVE Online Ecosystem Outlook

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/287097>\
**Category:** Dev Blogs\
**Tags:** feedback, official\
**Created:** [December 27, 2020, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/287097 "2020-12-27T11:25:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 5

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**Author:** ![Wanda\_Round](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_round/32/408743_2.png) [@Wanda\_Round](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Round)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/287097/83 "2020-12-27T17:51:49Z")

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We havent had any ice for the whole of December, its broken or not being mined where its spawned or both

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/287097/84 "2020-12-27T17:52:38Z")

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I can already tell by the top posters so far that this is gonna be a salty thread lmao.

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**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/287097/85 "2020-12-27T17:53:33Z")

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Reservation fee of 50,000,000 ISK has been charged.

Reservation will expire on January 15, 2021.  
Post Reservation Renewal Fee of 10,000,000 ISK can be sent to:

–Gadget Helmsdottir

(Hope y’all enjoy the holidays, and I look forward to see the new changes ❤)

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/287097/86 "2020-12-27T17:56:04Z")

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Within the past few years CCP has done way more nerfs to High Sec than they’ve done to Null Sec. And in continuing their feeble attempts to get players to leave High Sec, it seems CCP plans on doing even more nerfs to High Sec.

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**Author:** ![Aleverette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aleverette/32/268038_2.png) [@Aleverette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aleverette)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/287097/87 "2020-12-27T18:00:55Z")

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Trig T2 salvage too expensive CCPlz fix =(

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**Author:** ![Kyouraku\_Shunsuii](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kyouraku_shunsuii/32/435181_2.png) [@Kyouraku\_Shunsuii](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kyouraku_Shunsuii)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/287097/88 "2020-12-27T18:01:05Z")

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If it is not going to remove the ccp ess, you should turn off opening multiple accounts and log in the game with a monthly subscription.

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**Author:** ![Haplo\_Shannow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haplo_shannow/32/272309_2.png) [@Haplo\_Shannow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haplo_Shannow)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/287097/89 "2020-12-27T18:09:38Z")

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The kind of game people your kind are dreaming of is one that wouldn’t even be sustainable even if you paid 100€ every month because of how little people you actually represent in game.

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**Author:** ![Daro\_Mozu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daro_mozu/32/184030_2.png) [@Daro\_Mozu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daro_Mozu)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/287097/90 "2020-12-27T18:17:45Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> Within the past few years CCP has done way more nerfs to High Sec than they’ve done to Null Sec.

realy?  
which ones?

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**Author:** ![GloriousDeath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloriousdeath/32/245138_2.png) [@GloriousDeath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/GloriousDeath)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/287097/91 "2020-12-27T18:22:17Z")

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Well.  
I read the entire thing and found myself daydreaming while in the middle of it. I had to light up a joint and down a flask of Vodka to continue reading.  
They do have a way with words.

> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> Empires patience with intrusive Capsuleers in High Sec is wearing thin?

🤣 WTF does that even mean?! HaHaaaa!

So…umm, STILL no Fun anywhere on the horizon, ja?

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**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/287097/92 "2020-12-27T18:23:00Z")

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> [@Arrendis](#):
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> You have no idea whether or not the CSM has been instrumental in preventing much, much worse moves by CCP by telling them ‘this is colossally stupid’—which is what they’re actually for.

colossal stupid happens anyway, so you CSM lot are useless at best, harmful at worst, and CSM should just stop being a thing because of it.

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**Author:** ![tjateku](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tjateku/32/248279_2.png) [@tjateku](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tjateku)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/287097/93 "2020-12-27T18:52:18Z")

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I guess its broken … no icebelts no income no playtime … it should be fixed to old status again

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/287097/94 "2020-12-27T18:56:59Z")

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> [@Orca\_Platypus](#):
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> colossal stupid happens anyway, so you CSM lot are useless at best, harmful at worst, and CSM should just stop being a thing because of it.

I am not, and never have been, a member of the CSM. I’ve just known enough of them and seen enough of their frustration, over enough time that many of them are no longer under NDA, to know that you haven’t the first clue what you’re talking about where the CSM is concerned.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/287097/95 "2020-12-27T18:58:46Z")

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> [@Orca\_Platypus](#):
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> harmful on average, and useless at best.

I should get that put on a business card.

Jokes aside, the lack of a CSM Summit has hampered our connections this year but yes we are still doing the best we can.

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**Author:** ![NoaIV\_lambertsen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noaiv_lambertsen/32/245258_2.png) [@NoaIV\_lambertsen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NoaIV_lambertsen)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/287097/96 "2020-12-27T19:13:55Z")

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so they admit fully they over did it and fully screwed eve just like black out only this time it to where markets go nuts and prices for every thing go through the roof and the moving of ores is broken as hell with more bugs then jita has gaint mutant roaches

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**Author:** ![Astrid\_Farnsworth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/astrid_farnsworth/32/395981_2.png) [@Astrid\_Farnsworth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Astrid_Farnsworth)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/287097/97 "2020-12-27T19:17:57Z")

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I think the rorqual its a expensive ship and take time to inject and cus of that it should get more chance to be use, chance that the risk its worth it.

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**Author:** ![Hazen\_Koraka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hazen_koraka/32/395218_2.png) [@Hazen\_Koraka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hazen_Koraka)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/287097/98 "2020-12-27T19:22:58Z")

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Post-scarcity space civilisation? This is radical.

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**Author:** ![Eve\_Griefer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eve_griefer/32/277788_2.png) [@Eve\_Griefer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eve_Griefer)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/287097/99 "2020-12-27T19:29:04Z")

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I’ve really got to wonder how well WWB is being factored into CCP’s plans for the economy.

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**Author:** ![Bala\_Lazar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bala_lazar/32/512103_2.png) [@Bala\_Lazar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bala_Lazar)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/287097/100 "2020-12-27T19:29:56Z")

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So in 2019, CCP’s problem was the high income, so they made a bunch of (idiot) changes to lower it to a “healthy” state. Now, as i see, they might went too far, cause the “current state” isn’t in the healthy state. It’s in fuckin LOWER income.

So my question is: Why do yo guys say, that you “repaired” the ecomonmy, if it is still in a bad position. Cause the only thing that changed is the “current state’s” position next to the “healthy stage”.

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**Author:** ![Daro\_Mozu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daro_mozu/32/184030_2.png) [@Daro\_Mozu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daro_Mozu)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/287097/101 "2020-12-27T19:33:52Z")

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they meant that they succesfully removed overabundance and are about ro re-introduce some resources. Or at least we all hope so.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Osredkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_osredkar/32/248268_2.png) [@Max\_Osredkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Osredkar)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-eve-online-ecosystem-outlook/287097/102 "2020-12-27T19:47:08Z")

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@CCP_Dopamine the only thing keeping OUR game alive is the war… yes the WAR… lockdown has nothing to do with it cept making people have more TIME which if not for all the bonds made ingame throughout the years… could be wasted on some other game and yeah after 14 years I’ve been playing it no more than just a ■■■■■■■ arcade game… with one and only unique thing that there’s so many of us on one server…  
what SANDBOX??? 😃 looks more like a mudpile after a land slide 😃 it’s not even a joke anymore… some of us will wait till the war is over just so we don’t let our brothers down but after that it’s time for a breather from EVE and invest our money and time into gameplay that’s actually fun if not relaxing 😉

best regards

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