# The evil of Multiboxing

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-evil-of-multiboxing/53297>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [January 25, 2018, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-evil-of-multiboxing/53297 "2018-01-25T15:41:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Zoltan\_Lazar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoltan_lazar/32/46685_2.png) [@Zoltan\_Lazar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoltan_Lazar)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-evil-of-multiboxing/53297/41 "2018-01-25T18:54:39Z")

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I used to triple box basi’s in incursions and would regularly have all of my reps landing from all 3 chars before anyone else in logi had even yellowboxed the guy.

That said, a multiboxer is always at a disadvantage vs 2 people actually controlling the 2 accounts. Your experience should teach you that you should watch dscan.

Had it been me or a corpmate who came across you we would have landed in a dozen t3’s with a logi wing and you’d be complaining about how unfair it is for big WH corps to blob you.

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**Author:** ![Frodel\_Beit-Lehem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/frodel_beit-lehem/32/275538_2.png) [@Frodel\_Beit-Lehem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Frodel_Beit-Lehem)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-evil-of-multiboxing/53297/42 "2018-01-25T19:06:45Z")

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> [@Lady\_Ayeipsia](#):
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> Here’s the thing… How would you stop this?

EVE is a sandbox game, in that players themselves help create the game, and the rules they play by in the EVE universe. CCP has no interest in banning or combatting multiboxing, because most influential players want multiboxing to be a part of the game.

I just excersise my right to share my experience with this aspect of the game, and I think many new players share this experience of beeing prey to players who are willing to exploit any aspect of the game to win the advantage, no matter how unfair it is to other players.

There really is not much difference betwene multiboxing, botting and automation imo. It all steems from the same unbridled desire to gain an advantage over other players, and to win against all odds.

Take the debate elsewhere on this forum about the PIRAT corp and the use of botting to create ISK. It happend, not because it was impossible to stop, but because those who where involved, and knew about it allowed it to happend. How can we stop that? Or should we allow this also?

Why do people whine about botting and automation, if I can’t whine about multiboxing? I think people with this attitude do so because multiboxing is working well for them.

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**Author:** ![Frodel\_Beit-Lehem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/frodel_beit-lehem/32/275538_2.png) [@Frodel\_Beit-Lehem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Frodel_Beit-Lehem)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-evil-of-multiboxing/53297/43 "2018-01-25T19:08:08Z")

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> [@Zoltan\_Lazar](#):
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> I used to triple box basi’s in incursions and would regularly have all of my reps landing from all 3 chars before anyone else in logi had even yellowboxed the guy.
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> That said, a multiboxer is always at a disadvantage vs 2 people actually controlling the 2 accounts.

That’s a fantastic contradiction you have there. Can you pat yourself on the back while multiboxing also?

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-evil-of-multiboxing/53297/44 "2018-01-25T19:12:14Z")

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True

A single guy multiboxing 3 toons is way easier to kill than 3 different people 😂

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**Author:** ![Algarion\_Getz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/algarion_getz/32/356396_2.png) [@Algarion\_Getz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Algarion_Getz)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-evil-of-multiboxing/53297/45 "2018-01-25T19:13:10Z")

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> [@slphy\_vansyl](#):
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> some ppl dont have friends to play with so they invent them through alt 🙂

I made a wife for my main.

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**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-evil-of-multiboxing/53297/46 "2018-01-25T19:17:29Z")

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> [@Frodel\_Beit-Lehem](#):
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> That’s a fantastic contradiction you have there. Can you pat yourself on the back while multiboxing also?

There’s no contradiction there.

Where most of the logi were sleepy and bored (they’re doing incursions… I can understand this), he was on-the-ball. Probably because he was ramped up at 100% running 3 basis.

There is literally no way that one pilot can control \>1 account as fast as individual players can control that same number of accounts. Zoltan is entirely correct.

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**Author:** ![Frodel\_Beit-Lehem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/frodel_beit-lehem/32/275538_2.png) [@Frodel\_Beit-Lehem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Frodel_Beit-Lehem)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-evil-of-multiboxing/53297/47 "2018-01-25T19:19:43Z")

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> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#):
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> A single guy multiboxing 3 toons is way easier to kill than 3 different people 😂

A single guy is way easier to kill than a guy multiboxing 3 toons.

Btw, I disagree with you. I have meet people in this game who could multibox a small fleet better than most people play together.

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**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-evil-of-multiboxing/53297/48 "2018-01-25T19:20:39Z")

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confirming, i used to run two guards out of a 5 man wing and its pretty tense,  
you are proportionately _much_ more responsibl

> [@Frodel\_Beit-Lehem](#):
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> I have meet people in this game who could multibox a small fleet better than most people play together.

make friends with better pilots thensible than anyone else there so you pay attention

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**Author:** ![DaReaper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dareaper/32/330255_2.png) [@DaReaper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DaReaper)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-evil-of-multiboxing/53297/49 "2018-01-25T19:21:37Z")

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how do you even know it was a multi boxer and not a guy with friends?

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**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-evil-of-multiboxing/53297/50 "2018-01-25T19:22:06Z")

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he asked

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-evil-of-multiboxing/53297/51 "2018-01-25T19:26:46Z")

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Your opinion is irrelevant tbh

What matters is facts  
Like the fact that it’s easier for a multiboxer to screw up than 3 different people

Also that part where you go out again to try and get revenge only to die again is hilarious  
Especially since you knew what they had

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**Author:** ![Wander\_Prian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wander_prian/32/394208_2.png) [@Wander\_Prian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wander_Prian)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-evil-of-multiboxing/53297/52 "2018-01-25T19:28:19Z")

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The more characters you multibox, the more chances there are for you to lose them all due to giving the wrong command to the wrong character.

Then again, the common saying goes “A fair fight means that someone has already made a mistake.”

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**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-evil-of-multiboxing/53297/53 "2018-01-25T19:35:05Z")

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> [@Frodel\_Beit-Lehem](#):
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> CCP has no interest in banning or combatting multiboxing, because most influential players want multiboxing to be a part of the game.

CCP had the opportunity to nix multi-boxing entirely, but partially they understood the costs (and maybe futility) of enforcing it. The other part they understood, was that **EvE IS NOT FAIR**. It was never intended to be.

> [@Frodel\_Beit-Lehem](#):
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> I just excersise my right to share my experience with this aspect of the game, and I think many new players share this experience of beeing prey to players who are willing to exploit any aspect of the game to win the advantage, no matter how unfair it is to other players

No one is lamenting your right to complain. No one is going to take it lying down either.  
And everyone bitches about a nasty loss. Go out, have a beer. Get back in the saddle. Start another account and fight fire with fire, join with other players for defense, or recruit.

> [@Frodel\_Beit-Lehem](#):
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> There really is not much difference betwene multiboxing, botting and automation imo. It all steems from the same unbridled desire to gain an advantage over other players, and to win against all odds.

That’s like, your opinion, man. (insert meme here)

> [@Frodel\_Beit-Lehem](#):
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> Why do people whine about botting and automation, if I can’t whine about multiboxing? I think people with this attitude do so because multiboxing is working well for them.

Because botting and automation are against the rules, whereas multi-boxing is not.  
That’s the rules set by CCP and agreed to by everyone when they sign in.  
It’s nice that you have your own subset of rules to overlay CCP’s, but don’t expect others to follow your particular set.

> [@Frodel\_Beit-Lehem](#):
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> Btw, I disagree with you. I have meet people in this game who could multibox a small fleet better than most people play together.

Most people you say. You put up the best non-automation assisted multi-boxer against the best trained and cohesive group of pilots in identical ships, and my money is on the group hands down.

The amount of ships under one person’s control increases the difficulty. Likewise, different ships, roles, and functions under one person’s control also increases the difficulty.

–Gadget Dallas, Multi-Pass

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-evil-of-multiboxing/53297/54 "2018-01-25T19:41:55Z")

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> [@Frodel\_Beit-Lehem](#):
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> CCP has no interest in banning or combatting multiboxing, because most influential players want multiboxing to be a part of the game.

Maybe because 99% of the player base does it? 😂

But hey let’s ban it because you lost 3 ships to a guy using 3 toons 😂😂😂😂😂😂

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**Author:** ![Frodel\_Beit-Lehem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/frodel_beit-lehem/32/275538_2.png) [@Frodel\_Beit-Lehem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Frodel_Beit-Lehem)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-evil-of-multiboxing/53297/55 "2018-01-25T19:50:14Z")

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> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#):
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> Your opinion is irrelevant tbh
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> What matters is facts
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> Like the fact that it’s easier for a multiboxer to screw up than 3 different people

Exept that he has three chanses at winning, while I only have one.

> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#):
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> Also that part where you go out again to try and get revenge only to die again is hilarious
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> Especially since you knew what they had

Acctually I didn’t. I killed the first toon, only to get killed by the second. I reshiped into a recon ship, and got the second VNI into hull before his third toon warped in and got my squishy recon ship.

I got my Gnosis and almost killed them the third time, but despite two cap boosters I couldn’t keep up with 6 neuts and two VNIs.

But hey, I never said I was good at PVP, I’m just frustrated that people can use as many toons as they please to kill in this game. It makes the game a total joke for anyone else who do not multibox.

In this instance the joke is on me. He however thought I was pretty though at PVPing and invited me to join his corp.

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**Author:** ![Nalia\_White](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nalia_white/32/28245_2.png) [@Nalia\_White](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nalia_White)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-evil-of-multiboxing/53297/56 "2018-01-25T19:53:15Z")

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it’s actualy quite fun when you roleplay it so far that another player asks your alt if he will assist him kiliing your main 🙂

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**Author:** ![Frodel\_Beit-Lehem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/frodel_beit-lehem/32/275538_2.png) [@Frodel\_Beit-Lehem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Frodel_Beit-Lehem)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-evil-of-multiboxing/53297/57 "2018-01-25T19:56:17Z")

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> [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](#):
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> ost people you say. You put up the best non-automation assisted multi-boxer against the best trained and cohesive group of pilots in identical ships, and my money is on the group hands down.

Most people aren’t the best trained and cohesive group of pilots. Most people are (as Dom here states) multiboxers.

And I believe that is so, because most people don’t play together as much, they multibox instead.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Sharplin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peter_sharplin/32/389157_2.png) [@Peter\_Sharplin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peter_Sharplin)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-evil-of-multiboxing/53297/58 "2018-01-25T19:58:36Z")

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Here’s an Idea. Start multiboxing yourself and see how “easy” It is.  
Or better yet, Don’t fly stupid blingy fits and then whine when it gets roasted, 😃

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**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-evil-of-multiboxing/53297/59 "2018-01-25T19:59:34Z")

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ive had guys recruit my scouts before

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-evil-of-multiboxing/53297/60 "2018-01-25T19:59:37Z")

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> [@Frodel\_Beit-Lehem](#):
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> Exept

Didn’t you say that you lost 3 ships?  
That’s pretty much 3 chances lolll

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