# The Fight Against Cheating in EVE Online **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** official, devblog\ **Created:** [March 20, 2020, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-against-cheating-in-eve-online/226713 "2020-03-20T10:14:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![CCP\_Dopamine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_dopamine/32/280835_2.png) [@CCP\_Dopamine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Dopamine)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-against-cheating-in-eve-online/226713/1 "2020-03-20T10:14:38Z")
![Caldari-Station-Flyby_3840x2160](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/1/1198e80116662c7877975aa0f92ecf501a565064.jpeg) Greetings, We have just [published a blog from the EVE Ecosystem](https://www.eveonline.com/article/q7hlxo/the-fight-against-cheating-in-eve-online) about the fight against cheating in EVE Online. Please use this thread for any comments and feedback you have. ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-against-cheating-in-eve-online/226713/2 "2020-03-20T14:12:34Z")
Good! [redo] You can keep it in secret, how you achieved this, but your ML and AI algorithms must be improved (aka improved on analysing periodic actions). For example, your AI is closing my Project Discovery UI frequently when i’m doing some monotonous and periodic actions in a row there. Sadly, this stuff and your last patch changes didn’t changed the Velocity of ISK ratio. ---
**Author:** ![Mealka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mealka/32/383414_2.png) [@Mealka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mealka)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-against-cheating-in-eve-online/226713/3 "2020-03-20T14:17:12Z")
Nice wallpaper 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-against-cheating-in-eve-online/226713/4 "2020-03-20T14:17:43Z")
Well done! ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Sakimura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_sakimura/32/382213_2.png) [@ISD\_Sakimura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Sakimura)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-against-cheating-in-eve-online/226713/5 "2020-03-20T14:22:00Z")
Bring back a (annually) weekend event for Whack’a’Bot; give the opportunity for the hard working players to dish out some punishment too, and make a little bit of profit in the process. 🤤 ---
**Author:** ![Broadhead](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/broadhead/32/342181_2.png) [@Broadhead](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Broadhead)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-against-cheating-in-eve-online/226713/6 "2020-03-20T14:26:05Z")
So no faucet from mining? Impressive … 🤨 ---
**Author:** ![Bachet\_Tsuruomo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bachet_tsuruomo/32/354997_2.png) [@Bachet\_Tsuruomo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bachet_Tsuruomo)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-against-cheating-in-eve-online/226713/7 "2020-03-20T14:28:27Z")
Mining is not creating ISK per se. If you sell ore and get ISK, the ISK were already in the world before. ---
**Author:** ![Vanbo\_Murgalesh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vanbo_murgalesh/32/487905_2.png) [@Vanbo\_Murgalesh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vanbo_Murgalesh)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-against-cheating-in-eve-online/226713/8 "2020-03-20T14:30:29Z")
as long as botting is prevalent, legit players will continue wander off. why work hard for something that others are getting free? this work is showing great progress which improves confidence in the game. ---
**Author:** ![Jordan\_Ijonen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jordan_ijonen/32/171309_2.png) [@Jordan\_Ijonen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jordan_Ijonen)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-against-cheating-in-eve-online/226713/9 "2020-03-20T14:41:53Z")
So isk in combat sites took a nose dive because you caught all the bots. Definitely not because you nerfed VNI’s out of use in NS anomalies… ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-against-cheating-in-eve-online/226713/10 "2020-03-20T14:43:05Z")
Once upon a time there was the Plex for Snitches program. What became of it ? ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Sakimura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_sakimura/32/382213_2.png) [@ISD\_Sakimura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Sakimura)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-against-cheating-in-eve-online/226713/11 "2020-03-20T14:43:19Z")
The bots that were present were banned; a few days later new bots had replaced them… ---
**Author:** ![Strontium\_Reborn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/strontium_reborn/32/192973_2.png) [@Strontium\_Reborn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Strontium_Reborn)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-against-cheating-in-eve-online/226713/12 "2020-03-20T14:48:09Z")
Some of this banned bots is legal players, but… who cares? ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Dopamine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_dopamine/32/280835_2.png) [@CCP\_Dopamine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Dopamine)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-against-cheating-in-eve-online/226713/13 "2020-03-20T14:58:29Z")
We very much do care and are always trying to keep the false positives to the absolute minimum. Players should [reach out to our Customer Support team](https://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/suspension-and-ban-policy/) if they believe they have been penalized for no reason. ---
**Author:** ![Yrgrasil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yrgrasil/32/267896_2.png) [@Yrgrasil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yrgrasil)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-against-cheating-in-eve-online/226713/14 "2020-03-20T15:04:04Z")
Want to trade Thank you mails for a cool t-shirt or skin (or toilet paper) 😬 ---
**Author:** ![MAJOR\_ZAKARIA](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/major_zakaria/32/192551_2.png) [@MAJOR\_ZAKARIA](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MAJOR_ZAKARIA)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-against-cheating-in-eve-online/226713/15 "2020-03-20T15:09:30Z")
as groupe of players arabs we need arabic language to game ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-against-cheating-in-eve-online/226713/16 "2020-03-20T15:09:47Z")
So combat anomaly botting in Null accounts for 4 times as much bot-ISK as all other bot activities combined, and likely has for about 10 years now. Gosh, good thing none of us ever guessed _that_ before! Maybe now CCP can start paying attention to the whole idea that “absolutely predictable anoms with absolutely predictable spawns with absolutely predictable DPS/EHP/special abilities is a bad idea and essentially hanging out a big sign that says ‘COME BOT ME FOR ISK!’”. You know, if you design it bot-friendly, and code it bot-friendly, and make the payout system bot-friendly, then the bots are likely to accept your invitation. Just sayin’. ---
**Author:** ![Cygnet\_Lythanea](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cygnet_lythanea/32/270813_2.png) [@Cygnet\_Lythanea](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cygnet_Lythanea)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-against-cheating-in-eve-online/226713/17 "2020-03-20T15:41:32Z")
Ah, the war against RMT by anyone but CCP rolls on. ---
**Author:** ![Optimus\_Maximus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/optimus_maximus/32/368882_2.png) [@Optimus\_Maximus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Optimus_Maximus)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-against-cheating-in-eve-online/226713/18 "2020-03-20T15:43:50Z")
Now do you understand what all the nullsec tears were about during the blackout? But in the meantime, no, let’s kill the most unique MMORPG market ever to try to combat a 1% of the bots within the 1% of the orders that looked “bot-like”. Priorities. ---
**Author:** ![Abyssal\_Hawk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abyssal_hawk/32/340421_2.png) [@Abyssal\_Hawk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abyssal_Hawk)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-against-cheating-in-eve-online/226713/19 "2020-03-20T15:56:59Z")
wait… Bots reached abyssal deadspace already and project discovery? ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-against-cheating-in-eve-online/226713/20 "2020-03-20T16:01:13Z")
Everyone in jail is innocent, same goes for botters 🤣 [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-against-cheating-in-eve-online/226713.md?page=2)